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A historical RP (Set in 1699) - Planning


Started by Archmage Alator
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A large factor why political RP's tend to fail is because there is alot of uncertainity, however this RP will be set in Earth with it's start at the 7th of February in 1699.

Here we have actual evidence from the history that will stop arguements and our lessons learned from previous RP's will help us to keep this in order. Battle's, to avoid god-modding for example will be pre-determined by me and those not involved in it, and if I am involved in it then the rest will help to decide it. Using things such as terrain and army skill to determine it, besides the way the two players position their armies, aswell as the sheer size of them.

However this is intended to put the most attention on actual politics and economics, upgrading infrastructure and direct trade so that it benefits you.
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Rules:

1.) Behave and act with maturity.
2.) Your posts have to at a minimum be Three rows long, for the fun of everyone, please be detailed with the enviroment and what is happening.
3.) No god-modding, the leader and the neutral other players (Not the leader if the leader is in the battle or the dispute) will solve battles and dsiputes, taking in mind factors that would determine it.


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Setting: It's the 7th of February in 1699, the heir to the Spanish throne, Joseph Ferdinand Wittelsbach of Bavaria has just died. And the old king Charles II Habsburg has appointed Louis XIV's Grandson Louis as an heir. But most nations would not accept this, especially not the Habsburgs of Austria, under Emperor Leopold I of the Holy Roman Empire.

In the North more turmoil is brewing, after the reign and reforms of the skilled statesman King Karl XI of Sweden, Sweden stands with one of Europe's largest and the most dangerous army. With an economy well on it's feets with it's coffers full and a strong central Power. However, Sweden is surrounded by nations who all desire things from the dominant Power in northern Europe. Russia, Denmark-Norway aswell as Saxony and Poland-Lithuania under August II is the most prominent of these, all are dangerous foes. Believing Sweden to be vulnerable under the young Karl XII.

In the South sits the very powerful Ottoman Empire, a nation wich could cause great damage should it want to expand into Europe.

France sits as the most powerful nation in the World, and is the most powerful nation both economically and military, except at sea were England surpasses it. However due to this it is quite politically isolated.

Under the poor reign of Charles II Spain has fallen a bit in decay, however they are still the world's largest empire with great colonies, especially in South America and a new skilled ruler could restore it to it's former glory.

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Nations:
European map
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World map
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This is a few things that will effect the gameplay as one nation:

Population: This is the number of Citizens that live in the nation. A small population is below a million, wich means that the nation cannot field especially large armies and do not get as much taxes. A moderate population means that the nation has several million Citizens and can field quite large armies, although the current system of it's military do affect it aswell.
A large population means a population over ten millions, this nation has more Resources and reinforcements it is able to use the most nations. The current nations with that a large population is France, Spain, Poland-Lithuania, Russia, England, Austria and the Ottoman Empire.

Economy: This determines how rich a nation is, how much expenses it can afford to have.
A poor nation does not have especially much and gifts from them will be sparse and not especially impressive, they will not be able to afford greater wars without loans.
A moderate nation is as it sounds, moderate, they can give moderate gifts and afford moderate wars.
A wealthy nation is above moderate, but cannot becounted as rich. Their economy is doing well and they have Heavy coffers, being able to give good-quality gifts, economic support and afford large wars.
A rich nation has overflowing coffers and makes a great ammount of Money of differing things, it may be trade or maybe just taxes. They can give really impressive gifts and can bear very great expenses without ecomic collapse. The nations that are counted as rich is: France, Netherlands, England and the Ottoman Empire.

Land Power: This is how many Soldiers a nation can bring in and still leave most of the men working with what they work with, and not damaging the economy too much.
Sea Power: This is how many warships a nation has.

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Players:

Alator - The Empire of Sweden
Isilmo - The Kürfurstdom of Bavaria.
Invictus - Kingdom of France
Ragnar Ice-Blood - England and The Netherlands
Legion0575 - Duchy of Savoy
Ri'Do'Ja - Austria
Idriar: Saxony and Poland-Lithuania
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Nations:

Sweden:

Government: Absolute Monarchy

Ruler: Emperor Karl XII, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_XII

Population: Large

Economy: Rich

Military: Sweden has Europe's most advanced and dangerous army, the Caroline Army thanks to the reforms of Karl XI. This meant that Sweden has 80,000 in a standing army wich mostly lived in the countryside, split up in regiments. Each Soldier was to be upkept by several peasants and in turn helped the peasants in times of Peace. This enabled Sweden to raise great armies of professional Soldiers without the large cost of mercenaries. However in greater wars Sweden did bolster it's army with men that they called in, who was not apart of the standing army. Leaving the most men as workers, and should the need come, reinforcements. After Sweden's Power was wed to Denmark's these numbers was raised considerably.

Land Power: 170,000 (80,000 of these are apart of the Caroline army)

Sea Power: Sweden has 300 warships at this time if you include the Danish.
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Russia:

Government: Absolute Monarchy

Ruler: Tsar Peter I, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_the_Great

Population: Large

Economy: Moderate

Military: Although being reformed by Peter, Russia is backwards and it's military technology is poor. Simply technologically left-behind in general.

Land Power: 150,000
Sea Power: Below 100 ships divided between the North Sea and the Seas near Russia's Eastern border in Asia.
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France:

Government: Absolute Monarchy

Ruler: Louis XIV, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_XIV_of_France

Population: Large

Economy: Rich

Military: France can rely more on numbers than actual skill, but the French troops are not without skill and well-equipped.

Land Power: 250,000
Sea Power: 200 ships.
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England:

Government: Absolute Monarchy.

Ruler: King William III, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_III_of_England

Population: Large

Economy: Rich

Military: While the Redcoats are good, they do not really excel at anything. At sea however, it is England that is the leading Power. Having the most skilled and largest fleet.

Land Power: 70,000

Sea Power: England has 300 warships.
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Ottoman Empire:

Government: Empire

Ruler: Sultan Mustafa, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustafa_II

Population: Large

Economy: Rich

Military: The Ottoman Soldiers are a bit behind western Europé in terms of military, but they still are dangerous foes.

Land Power: 200,000

Sea Power: 175 warships.
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Austria:

Government: Empire

Ruler: Emperor Leopold I, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_I,_...an_Emperor

Population: Large

Economy: Wealthy

Military: Austria has well-equipped armies of moderate skill.

Land Power: 275,000 (175,000 without being the Emperor)

Sea Power: 75 warships in the Mediterranean sea.
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Poland-Lithuania:

Government: Elective Monarchy

Ruler: King August II, Kürfurst of Saxony, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_II

Population: Large

Economy: Moderate

Military: While a force to be reckoned with, it's military is by no means impressive.

Land Power: 60,000

Sea Power: 50 ships in the Baltic sea, however few are especially impressive.
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Denmark-Norway

Government: Absolute Monarchy

Ruler: Frederick IV, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_IV_of_Denmark

Population: Moderate

Economy: Wealthy

Military: Denmark-Norway is not especially powerful at land, however they do possess strength at sea. They are currently under the rule of Sweden.

Land Power: 50,000

Sea Power: 150 warships, spread out in the western parts of the Baltic Sea and the North Sea.
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Netherlands

Government: Republic

Ruler: William III, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_III_of_England

Population: Moderate

Economy: Rich

Military: The Netherlands is more focused on trade and it's navy than it's military, but they are still to be reckoned with.

Land Power: 45,000

Sea Power: 250 warships.
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Portugal

Government: Absolute Monarchy

Ruler: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_II_of_Portugal

Population: Moderate

Economy: Wealthy

Military: Portugal's military is moderately good, but does not really excel at anything.

Land Power: 50,000

Sea Power: Portugal have 180 warships in it's fleet.
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Kürfurstdoms and Duchies of the Holy Roman Empire

Government: Feudal, they are ruled by the highest kind of nobility that is not yet ranked as a king, aswell as Dukes.

Populations: Moderate/small, about a million or below.

Economy: Moderate, except for Saxony whom is wealthy.

Military: Their forces are moderate in skill and Equipment.

Land Power: 15,000 for the smaller, and 30,000 (Bavaria has 40,000 in total due to their governing over the Spanish Netherlands) for the larger such as Prussia, Bavaria, Saxony, Savoy and Holstein-Gottorp.

Sea Power: For the larger ones with coast, 30 warships.

Rulers: (I will add the players rulers here when someone chooses one of them.)

Bavaria: Maximilian II Emanuel, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilian_...of_Bavaria

Savoy: Victor II Amadeus, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Amadeus_II_of_Savoy
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Spain:

Government: Absolute Monarchy

Ruler: Charles II, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_II_of_Spain

Population: Large

Economy: Moderate, Spain has the potential for great wealth, however during the poor reign of Charles II it has fallen in decay.

Military: Spain is a bit behind due to the poor government of Charles II, however is has great potential.

Land Power: 200,000

Sea Power: 225 warships.

(Spain will be NPC's due to the political setting)
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The Holy Roman Emperor gets a 100k extra men as a benefit from being the Emperor.




(This may contaion errors as historical sources somtimes differ if you have spotted any please send me a PM :))

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This post was last modified: October 19th 2014 09:01 AM by Archmage Alator


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I am working on filling out Everything :)


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I am interested, as you already know.
And as you also know, I am currently choosing between Russia, England and the Ottoman Empire...


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I'm definitely in. I'll go with France for now if that's okay, though I may change it later (not before this gets too far) if that's okay with you.


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If you want to fight against essentially everyone around you... Ok :)


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Alator... Netherlands leader for you... :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_III_of_England


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Thank you :)

Oh right he is the king of England and stateholder of the Netherlands... I had forgotten that :P


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Yep the Netherlands and England are separate but ruled by a single monarch so in essence one Rp-er...

Anyone want to be an OP Maritime Nation? Hmm? Anyone?!


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Remeber, they will be harder keeping togheter! ;) And Netherlands will be a republic so...

And a Bavarian Holy Roman Emperor-to be should not talk about OP things ;D
This post was last modified: June 28th 2014 10:57 AM by Archmage Alator


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Hey I'm definitely interested in playing this! Great Post Alator

I see my boy France is taken haha, so my choices:

1) England
2)Netherlands
3)Prussia
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England and Netherlands are ruled by the same king. Prussia however would be an interesting choice :)


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Alator, the Ottoman empire is still ruled by Mustafa II at the time this Rp is starting for a few more years: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustafa_II

Also you put the wrong link for Frederick IV of Norwegian-Danish Kingdom...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_IV_of_Denmark

Though he will only come into power from August 1699...
This post was last modified: June 28th 2014 11:27 AM by Isilmo


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Ah sorry my bad, Ahmed gets the throne a few years after the start of this RP

I will fix that, thank you for the help :D


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Alator, may you please place me as Russia?


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(June 28th 2014 11:29 AM)ragnar-ice blood Wrote:  Alator, may you please place me as Russia?

Done :)


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