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How exactly is Necromancy working in Tamriel. In the Skyrim it was like pointing at a corpse, it raised and crippled to a pile of ash later.

What are the technics to raise a zombie more lore like? How it comes necromancers thralls last more longer than yours? And a distinction between different kinds of undead would be useful, too.


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Well first there is the case of raising them, with PvP either you will have to raise them but instead of the person you get a lvl'd corpse etc. or its only as a ultimate on the hotkeys.


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If you're talking about ESO, we don't know how necromantic abilities work, or even if there are any. My gut tells me there are, but I have no proof.

If you're talking about in TES in general, its been done two ways: summoning through a corpse, or just plain summoning.
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Technically, Necromancy hasn't been invented yet.
Mannimarco, the first Necromancer, is the only one in Tamriel who has the arcane knowledge of how to raise large numbers of the dead.
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(January 22nd 2013 08:18 PM)Terminus Zaire Wrote:  Technically, Necromancy hasn't been invented yet.
Mannimarco, the first Necromancer, is the only one in Tamriel who has the arcane knowledge of how to raise large numbers of the dead.

Yeah, this is correct. It's the impetus for his "services" being required by the current ruling family of the Empire (and Molag Bal).


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(January 22nd 2013 08:18 PM)Terminus Zaire Wrote:  Technically, Necromancy hasn't been invented yet.
Mannimarco, the first Necromancer, is the only one in Tamriel who has the arcane knowledge of how to raise large numbers of the dead.

So Mannimarco was really the "inventor" of necromancy? Always thought he was just the mightiest ever. As he is a servant of Molag Bal, is Necromancy connected to this Deadra? But somethings I don´t understand: There are some Undead who are just stupid thralls, like skeletons, but there are some Undead who seem to me as if their soul has returned for a short moment. I think of dying zombies uttering lines like "Free again" or "thank you". Draugr are of that kind, too, as they insult you in battle ;)

Are there even Daugr in TESO yet? It´s stated in "Amongst Daugr" that they used to be servants of the dragon priests who were some kind of mummified alive. Their "Live" was absorbed by the dragon priest who they serve. He gives them a little bit of their live back from time to time to make them run around.


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Here's a fascinating book about necromancy, such as how to create skeletons. Animals are also subject to necromancy, but as the book states, they do not recognize their master.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Corpse_Preparation

In addition, Mannimarco wasn't the first necromancer. "Black arts" has existed since recorded timeline, and is originally from mysticism school (Mannimarco used mysticism himself).

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Black_Arts_On_Trial
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Mannimarco actually invented necromancy some time ago. im pretty sure hes already a lich and / or resurrected.
He invented that stuff when he was still alive and settling his score with the Psijiics.
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I read the books, but how does necromancy work?

Is the life/soul torn from Aetherius and forced into its former body? Or creates the necromancer a sort of magical "console" that drives the corpse? Something like a robot driven by a programme. With that I could think of more skilled necromancers making the "console" more complexe, so that the zombie can fulfill complexer tasks. Meneal task, like guarding a door are simple, searching a book in a library is complex.

Those "robots" I would refer to as zombie. The onces with their own soul in them, even if forced into them, I would refer to as Lich.


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afaik risen zombies dont have a soul (tho, they do have with soulgems, only white souls tho, wich would imply that they have some kind of other energy working as such)

Others like draugr are very much identical to who they were in live, however the rank of the undead determines to wich degree. And what kind of memories they retain.
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I wonder how nocromancy was discovered. When Molag Bal is responsible for undead I could think he had influence upon ever from the beginning. Did early cultures wittness the dead raising in places where Molag Bal had some influence? Or are restless souls returning to their body a natural phenomena?

However, I think some early magican or shamans thought about, how can we take advantage from the undead? Maybe they searched for immortality in this lifeless state, or just for servants and thralls.

Or necromancy derives from some dead cult, worship to ancestor corpses, and within some ritual, accidently a undead was raised ;)


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(January 23rd 2013 04:40 PM)Idriar Wrote:  I wonder how nocromancy was discovered. When Molag Bal is responsible for undead I could think he had influence upon ever from the beginning. Did early cultures wittness the dead raising in places where Molag Bal had some influence? Or are restless souls returning to their body a natural phenomena?

However, I think some early magican or shamans thought about, how can we take advantage from the undead? Maybe they searched for immortality in this lifeless state, or just for servants and thralls.

Or necromancy derives from some dead cult, worship to ancestor corpses, and within some ritual, accidently a undead was raised ;)

welp. the most prominent necromancers are the sload. and the sload have a tendency of not talking about their history.
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Ummm,,, Is Necromancy related to origin of Soul gems, that we witness in Dawnguard DLC of Skyrim, where you go the realm of soul gem souls.
From my point of view they seduced first people in becoming necromancer's by creating soul gems to give them more power... or i am totally wrong and they are not related.
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(January 23rd 2013 05:15 PM)Ewan Wrote:  Ummm,,, Is Necromancy related to origin of Soul gems, that we witness in Dawnguard DLC of Skyrim, where you go the real of soul gem souls.
From my point of view they seduced first people in becoming necromancer's by creating soul gems to give them more power... or i am totally wrong and they are not related.

the thing is. we dont know. but i dont think thats how the first necromancers came to be. its heavily implied that the perfect masters (i dont know how they are called in the english translation) have been mortals once that mastered the art of necromancy and ascendet to what they are know.
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So... If they mastered necromancy and soul gems exist from 1E, can we say that necromancy is older then they are. OR are they only masters of Black Soul gems?
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