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How will the Next Gen consoles effect TESO


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With it now being pretty much certain that we are going to have either the next generation Playstation, Xbox or possably both before the end of the year I was wondering how it could effect TESO.

First off let me say that I was expecting the game to launch in late November with pricing etc being released during E3.

However, E3 is now going to be dominated by news of Sony/Microsofts new console and the AAA games that are going to be released with the consoles. Other news is going to struggle to get the attention it needs.

Therefore, I feel, ZeniMax needs to start upping the amount of information is starts releasing, it has to convince potential players that they should be spending time playing TESO rather than on there shiny new Playstion / Xbox.

Of course, players who prefer console gaming will be more inclined to go for the new console and PC gamers may lean towards TESO, but they is a large group of people who fall into neither camp that will need convincing. Once the new consoles are released Microsofts / Sonys marketing and press departments will go into overdrive and ZeniMax needs to preempt this by getting as much information out as they can before E3.

There two two prefered release winows for games, spring or November / early December. January and February are not good for sales due to Christmas and less people play computer games during the summer months. In my opinion TESO does not feel like a game that is ready to launch in the spring so that leaves a launch from September onwards

If only one console launches this year it will probably luanch in November so there would be a slot for TESO to fit into; however if both launch this year then one will prpbably luanch in September the other in November leaving TESO to have to compete with them for gamers.

A spring 2014 TESO launch would probably be the best solution but ZeniMax seem to be nailing their colours to a 2013 launch, meaning that they are going to have to compete against two of the biggest companys around to convince gamers that TESO is the game to play rather than getting a new console.
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(January 4th 2013 09:44 AM)Lasemy Wrote:  With it now being pretty much certain that we are going to have either the next generation Playstation, Xbox or possably both before the end of the year I was wondering how it could effect TESO.

First off let me say that I was expecting the game to launch in late November with pricing etc being released during E3.

However, E3 is now going to be dominated by news of Sony/Microsofts new console and the AAA games that are going to be released with the consoles. Other news is going to struggle to get the attention it needs.

Therefore, I feel, ZeniMax needs to start upping the amount of information is starts releasing, it has to convince potential players that they should be spending time playing TESO rather than on there shiny new Playstion / Xbox.

Of course, players who prefer console gaming will be more inclined to go for the new console and PC gamers may lean towards TESO, but they is a large group of people who fall into neither camp that will need convincing. Once the new consoles are released Microsofts / Sonys marketing and press departments will go into overdrive and ZeniMax needs to preempt this by getting as much information out as they can before E3.

There two two prefered release winows for games, spring or November / early December. January and February are not good for sales due to Christmas and less people play computer games during the summer months. In my opinion TESO does not feel like a game that is ready to launch in the spring so that leaves a launch from September onwards

If only one console launches this year it will probably luanch in November so there would be a slot for TESO to fit into; however if both launch this year then one will prpbably luanch in September the other in November leaving TESO to have to compete with them for gamers.

A spring 2014 TESO launch would probably be the best solution but ZeniMax seem to be nailing their colours to a 2013 launch, meaning that they are going to have to compete against two of the biggest companys around to convince gamers that TESO is the game to play rather than getting a new console.
Well,it's great that they decided to squeze it in 2013,because some people I know,can't wait for TESO to come out,they'll kill themselves,stupid bastards...


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The biggest problem I can see with consoles is updates. Pretty much every single MMO that I have been a part of the launch has seen "hotfixes" first few hours in...so how do you keep console users up to date with the PC users when SOE requires them to give permission of everything that is for the playstation? And I think its much the same for Microsoft and the xbox. The console users would pretty much always be an update or two behind the PC users....
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IIRC, so far whenever consoles have been mentioned in interviews, the ZOS reply has always been "no comment."

TESO will be a PC game first, no doubt about that. I'm betting against them porting to any consoles. It will make things too complicated IMHO.

As for competing with consoles, I'm not sure the overlap between MMORPG fans and PS/XBox FPS FOTW fans is all that large. I don't think there is anything to worry about.
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(January 4th 2013 10:37 AM)Cools-His-Hands Wrote:  IIRC, so far whenever consoles have been mentioned in interviews, the ZOS reply has always been "no comment."

TESO will be a PC game first, no doubt about that. I'm betting against them porting to any consoles. It will make things too complicated IMHO.

As for competing with consoles, I'm not sure the overlap between MMORPG fans and PS/XBox FPS FOTW fans is all that large. I don't think there is anything to worry about.

Im not saying that TESO will be released on consoles, more how will the consoles effect the mumbers of players in TESO. If you are primarilly a console gamer or play both console and PC will you be playing TESO and possibly be paying a mothly subsciption of you have just bought a next generation console?
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I doubt very much whether ZMO are pursuing a console release for TESO.

I also don't think that the announcement of new consoles this year will have much impact on TESOs player number. There could be an economic factor involved if the game is subscription based, but that's only likely to be a minor annoyance. If Microsoft and Sony announce their consoles at E3 - which is unlikely - it isn't going to be until early 2014 until we actually see them. There's a lot of run-up marketing to get done before they actually drop the consoles.

ZMO are being quite smart about placing TESO in 2013. We're not due another TES RPG until 2017 now, so they're giving themselves about 4 years worth of time before a new TES game cannibalises the player base.
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I only game on PC. PS3 is a dust magnet. I do not plan on purchasing any new console system, there is no need for me to have one. Not sure what the question is here, this is an MMO for PC and Mac. I was suprised to see them at E3 last year, E3 is mainly all about console games and useless addons for them.
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As much as I love console gaming (more so I like a controller in my hands then a keyboard) TESO better be PC only. Consoles at this point are outdated, and are barley ahead of the curve when they come out. I dont want Zenimax worrying about dated technology when they have the PC platform that doesn't require much worry.

Plus MMO often require subscriptions, and having a subscription on top of xbox live starts to be to much money.


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I do not think that the release of the consoles will have much effect on TESO. A little maybe but not much.

Money will always be an issue and I don't feel that it is really a factor. If you don't have the money to go buy a computer you probably don't have enough to buy one of the new consoles.

As for the people that will buy a console and not play TESO, well they were probably on the fence about if they were going to play or not, or they were not interested at all.

I for one just sold all my ps3 games and repurchased the ones I can't get enough of for PC. I only use the ps3 now for blue ray and netflix. Heh. I can play my games on my computer in all their glory with a controller, plus do all my other business too. Why would I buy another console is more the question.

All I know is this little dark elf is waiting in anticipation.
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In the near future, perhaps, we may see console integration with PC players in MMOs. EVE is doing this with DUST514 to some degree.

With TESO, however, I can't see it happening.


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I'm not worried about the next gen consoles really giving TESO a problem. In agreeance with many who have already said it, the two don't really compete with each other.

I do see there being a launch issue with it, if ESO is pushed to say Sept/Nov, with a similar time-line for either Xbox or PS3. That being said, launch is really not something to be worried about, because a huge influx of people will come to the game regardless, and many will leave, that being the standard for MMOs. "Oh shiny" into "now it's rusty" feeling that players who are not dedicated to MMOs will feel.

But, this can also be a benefit. For the sake of argument, we'll say there's maybe 15% less people on launch day that will try the game out in a month or two. Well, that means that leveling is spread across the board, a second wind for launch if you will. This not only makes grouping for lower level content have longevity, but also promotes people to play several factions keeping the numbers for all factions in check. (Nobody wants to roll a nord, find out they dont like it, and reroll Breton with nobody around). This also helps with guild recruiting, allowing new members to form new guilds, or follow in suit with the already established guild. Theres a plethora of other benefits you can gather.

My point being, no matter what these systems do, you can only distract players from swimming for so long before they want to get their feet wet. It could prove to be a breath of fresh air for the game, or not effect it all. I can't really fathom what kind of lasting negativity it would have.


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To those of you who didn't read the top post.

This topic is NOT about TESO being ported to consoles. That's not going to happen.
The topic is how TESO sales will be affected by timing with regards to new consoles hitting the market at the same time.

Eh, if you didn't bother to read the top post I guess you're not reading this either...


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Personally I stopped being a console gamer (beyond nintendo, cause I grew up with nintendo) when consoles stopped just playing games and started doing stuff a computer does. I know consoles are glorified computers, but still. I don't want to browse the internet or check facebook on my game console. I don't want to have to download firmware updates on a console. I know nintendo does all that now too, but meh, I forgive you nintendo.

All in all I am a pc gamer now and the new xbox 720 and PS4 don't interest me any more than I wonder what their hardware specs will be. ESO is one of my must have games of 2013. Because I have no interest in the next gen consoles that will be released this year its not gonna effect my time with eso.
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Q: The game currently is for PC and Mac and you've said you want it to run on laptops, so you're designing it to run on low-spec machines as well, but has there been any consideration at all given to the console world? There aren't too many MMOs on consoles, though SOE has tried to push it on PS3. The Elder Scrolls franchise has many fans on Xbox 360 and PS3, so were there ever any discussions on getting the game on Xbox Live, for example?

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: That is a very long answer, as there are a lot of rumors swirling around the next-gen coming back together with PCs. I haven't seen any of that, but I read all the rumor sites just like everyone else. It seems like things are going back to a more standard platform. That being said, we haven't thought about it heavily right now. The worst thing you can do is worry about new platforms while in development. We want to do what we're doing right now and then look around for further opportunities. Certainly we're open to new opportunities, and we're going to be looking into new territories beyond North America and Europe.

Q: So hypothetically speaking, would you keep the console universe connected to the other players? Would it be the same game?

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: We would have no idea; we'd have to look at the technology. That's a technology question because we obviously would want it to be the same community. The main reason for previous titles is because the technology has not been there. I can't speculate.

Q: Why do you think it is that we don't see successful MMOs on consoles? It's been the realm of PC for a long time now, but console players want to play, right? Is it the game balancing, the mechanics or the hardware? Why have we not seen it?

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: It's the classic desk vs. couch argument, but it is blurring over time. The current-gen and previous-gen MMOs were all about using the keyboard and mouse, and sure, everyone used things like Ventrilo and other voice chat services, but that only works in a small group. A lot of that has been thanks to design problems that people haven't focused on a lot, such as typing and controlling at the same time.

The 360, when announced was a pretty ridiculously cool device, but it is not so good anymore compared to PCs and even when it was announced PCs were still better than it. The technology was a little limiting for the size and scope of the world you could have. It mostly comes down to PCs being wide open. Online game development is all about doing whatever you want, pushing limitations, and it's just easier to do on an open platform. Someday, it may all change.


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