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Shouts in TESO?


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Shouts have been a major new feature in Skyrim, and I'm not sure if I'm the only one but I for one really like the feature. So do you think that shouts, in any form, will make an appearance? Perhaps draugr will use shouts as a unique ability? Maybe you can find the Gray Beards and learn one shout?

According to Ulfric Stormcloak, any true Nord can learn how to shout (which is probably true for all races), so maybe there will be one shout that is unique to Nord characters? Maybe all races can learn a shout, but each race can learn a different one (e.g. Bosmer can learn "animal allegiance" while Nords can learn "Unrelenting Force")?

I mean, now when the attacks are made up of different abilities and such, shouts would probably just work as another ability...


I don't know if Zenimax has talked about shouts, so they may have already confirmed this for all I know.


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Nope. Two scenarios here.
1: everyone gets them. Not really lore-breaking as much as it is lore-shattering. It's supposed to be a skill that very few people have, not something that's as common as iron daggers.
2: Only Nords have them. Even worse, since regardless of how balanced it is, people will still cry foul. Plus it still breaks the lore, as this skill is very rare even amongst Nords.

So yeah, again, not gonna happen I'm afraid. Just like dragons. And dragon mounts. And first-person view.
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I'll have to pass on this one. Shouting is something very few are able to do. It only comes natural to those of dragon blood as it is inherently a dragon skill and only one Dovahkiin if lucky actually pops up every few centuries. The Nords that dedicate their entire lives like the Greybeards take many years to even master the simplest shouts.

It's a great idea for a solo experience, but doesn't work well when dealing with thousands of other players. Shouts would either be extremely OP or would be diluted to a point where having them wouldn't even be worth it. I'd rather keep them out of the game.
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(August 26th 2012 03:02 PM)Sparhawk Wrote:  Nope. Two scenarios here.
1: everyone gets them. Not really lore-breaking as much as it is lore-shattering. It's supposed to be a skill that very few people have, not something that's as common as iron daggers.
2: Only Nords have them. Even worse, since regardless of how balanced it is, people will still cry foul. Plus it still breaks the lore, as this skill is very rare even amongst Nords.

So yeah, again, not gonna happen I'm afraid. Just like dragons. And dragon mounts. And first-person view.

(August 26th 2012 09:34 PM)Redguard King Wrote:  I'll have to pass on this one. Shouting is something very few are able to do. It only comes natural to those of dragon blood as it is inherently a dragon skill and only one Dovahkiin if lucky actually pops up every few centuries. The Nords that dedicate their entire lives like the Greybeards take many years to even master the simplest shouts.

It's a great idea for a solo experience, but doesn't work well when dealing with thousands of other players. Shouts would either be extremely OP or would be diluted to a point where having them wouldn't even be worth it. I'd rather keep them out of the game.

I never really saw it that way, and it's a good point. But what about having draugr that can shout? That would make them a bit different from regular undead, and you wouldn't have to face anything lore breaking since they can shout in Skyrim.


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(August 26th 2012 10:20 PM)Asguard Wrote:  
(August 26th 2012 03:02 PM)Sparhawk Wrote:  Nope. Two scenarios here.
1: everyone gets them. Not really lore-breaking as much as it is lore-shattering. It's supposed to be a skill that very few people have, not something that's as common as iron daggers.
2: Only Nords have them. Even worse, since regardless of how balanced it is, people will still cry foul. Plus it still breaks the lore, as this skill is very rare even amongst Nords.

So yeah, again, not gonna happen I'm afraid. Just like dragons. And dragon mounts. And first-person view.

(August 26th 2012 09:34 PM)Redguard King Wrote:  I'll have to pass on this one. Shouting is something very few are able to do. It only comes natural to those of dragon blood as it is inherently a dragon skill and only one Dovahkiin if lucky actually pops up every few centuries. The Nords that dedicate their entire lives like the Greybeards take many years to even master the simplest shouts.

It's a great idea for a solo experience, but doesn't work well when dealing with thousands of other players. Shouts would either be extremely OP or would be diluted to a point where having them wouldn't even be worth it. I'd rather keep them out of the game.

I never really saw it that way, and it's a good point. But what about having draugr that can shout? That would make them a bit different from regular undead, and you wouldn't have to face anything lore breaking since they can shout in Skyrim.

I'm fine with that. Although, only the most elite of the draugr actually had the ability to use shouts. Perhaps it could be a world boss or just a higher level difficulty npc that would require more skill and probably more players.
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(August 27th 2012 02:10 AM)Redguard King Wrote:  I'm fine with that. Although, only the most elite of the draugr actually had the ability to use shouts. Perhaps it could be a world boss or just a higher level difficulty npc that would require more skill and probably more players.

Yep. That'd work.
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I like the idea of a few Draugr being able to shout, definitely.


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Couldn't that be a nice reward for the Emperor as well? Other than that, I agree shouts should be very rare and only for NPCs.


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(August 27th 2012 07:56 AM)Deveron Wrote:  Couldn't that be a nice reward for the Emperor as well? Other than that, I agree shouts should be very rare and only for NPCs.

While it would be a nice treat if the crowned emperor would light the dragon fires and have the ability to shout, it doesn't sound like ZOS plans for anyone to be emperor for long. On top of that, if one were to lose the throne it wouldn't really make any sense if they lost the ability to shout thereafter.

I think it would be interesting if there was perhaps a hall of history instead in the Imperial City where a player could go and see all the players crowned emperor. It would be a nice way to commend players who have been crowned without actually giving them any special perks for gaining the throne.
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(August 27th 2012 11:49 AM)Redguard King Wrote:  While it would be a nice treat if the crowned emperor would light the dragon fires and have the ability to shout, it doesn't sound like ZOS plans for anyone to be emperor for long. On top of that, if one were to lose the throne it wouldn't really make any sense if they lost the ability to shout thereafter.

I think it would be interesting if there was perhaps a hall of history instead in the Imperial City where a player could go and see all the players crowned emperor. It would be a nice way to commend players who have been crowned without actually giving them any special perks for gaining the throne.

But wouldn't it be a nice feature for those who have been emperor to actually know one shout? I mean, that would make you really stand out, although it doesn't need to be OP. Besides, only a few people would have it anyways...

It would be like a medal of honor.


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And it could be the RvR just resets after some time and we have to drive Manni and his folks again and again out of white-gold, because Molag caught the dragon and breaks him all the time. This could explain learning and losing the ability to shout.
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I agree with Redguard King.

OP and boring if all 10.000 players in the same server can learn and use it.. :)
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I want them as a Racial for the Nord. And no i dont want them to learn all the shouts. I want the nords to be able to learn Fus Roh Dah as a Racial ULTIMATE ability, as in the one you can get with your class, just that this one is exclusive to the nord.

Why is that a thing? Because, it beeing just an alternative to other ultimates, makes it more rareley used and because in the lore the nords have been using the Voice alot more prominently in the second era as we know from lore snippets, it only fits if you ask me. It would be neat if youd have to do a quest for it.

Why wouldnt it be too bizzare? Cause it wouldnt be all that good most likeley. Its a rather Chaotic CC ability, therfore something of obscurity. But viable in the hands of someone who knows when and how to use it. Also it beeing an Ultimate ability it would not be spammable.
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Good idea, indeed. Wonder what the other races' ultimates could be, if they were following this concept.


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Thats quite easy if you think about it: Argonians could use Hist Skin as a panic heal, Adrenalin Rush for the Redguard, Berserker Rage for the Orcs, Eyes of Terror for the Kahjiit as a strong CC ability, for the Bosmer i had two ideas: first is Summon a Bear or some other strong forest Animal to help in the fight, alternativeley the "Wyld Hunt" tho i m ust say, for lore reasons this hardly makes sense, even if its soooooo great just look at the racials youll usually come up with something.
Also it does not have to be an Ultimate for all the Racials, see the Ultimate Racial just replaces the Ultimate youd usually have, so it doesnt matter if your race actually has one , youll always have only one Ultimate Ability, those who played Guild Wars 2 probably understand my concept better.


Something else i thought about was that, in the Main Story, wich is only for you aperently, its said there are descisions to make. How about you could decide about a few things on your Character that are not clear with the Current TES Character creation. For example if youre a Redguard, youd have to specify if youre a Crown or a Forbear, for the Nord you could, for example, decide to have your Character be a Tongue (and therfore get the Shout Skill) for the Kahjiit you could go as far as choosing your Subrace (a limited ammount of course, playing a Senche would kind of ruin the fun of the game) , just an idea i had.
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