Join the Ashes of Creation MMORPG
(Register or log in to remove advertisements - why ads?)

So, I finally got Oblivion.


Started by RirodenOrkraft
Post #22928
Member

20
Faction & Race:
Ebonheart Pact (Nord)
I've been playing Skyrim for months now, and for Christmas I got Oblivion for the 360 as well. I haven't played a lot of it since I've been playing Skyrim and WWE 13, but what I've done so far is escape the prison and made it to the location I needed to. I haven't yet talked to anyone outside of the prison escape. My character is a Bosmer, custom made class based on warrior, and I use mainly swords.

Is there anything I should know for the game ahead? Any tips or hints? I do not want any big spoilers, but any tips I should keep at my mind would be appreciated.


Also, I got the DLC's Hearthfire and Dawnguard for Skyrim. I have built a house, adopted two girls (despite my wife having died valiantly in battle long ago) and hired staff and all. I have also changed my face and become a vampire lord. I just completed the quest involving filling the chalice with blood and all, and have set out with Serana. The vampire lord perks are great, especially bat travel and vampire vision.

Are there any good tips for being a vampire lord that could help me? And even though I've already become a vampire lord, is it possible to switch sides and work for the Dawnguard at this point?


The Obsidian Brotherhood

A strong arm to slay the weak.
An iron heart that knows no fear.
And a foul mouth to boast about it!
Such are the virtues of the pact!

Check out The Elder Scrolls Kalheim
http://elderscrollskalheim.webs.com/
Like Reply
The following 1 user likes RirodenOrkraft's post:
Hentmereb
Post #22934
Member

87
Faction & Race:
Ebonheart Pact (Dunmer)
I'm gonna reply to the part of changing from Vamp to Dawnguard, as I'm a bit of noob in Oblivion :P
No, you cannot change. By the time you start the quests for the Vampires you cannot change...it's like Imperials and Stormcloaks.
However, you can undo your vampirism doing a quest in Morthal (just in case you don't know about it).


Buoyant Armigers

May the periphery of ancient wisdom remain merciful with those who deny the darkness...

Like Reply
The following 1 user likes Ivixor's post:
Hentmereb
Post #22937
Member

536
Faction & Race:
Ebonheart Pact (Dunmer)
For oblivion, I would recommend going to Anvil before following the main questline beyond the first two or three quests. At Anvil, you'll find the Fighters guild, and you'll be able to do quests in that area, level a bit, and get some good coin/loot. Do you need to? No, because the game scales with you (my biggest problem with Oblivion), but its lame to follow the main quest as a lowbie, IMO.

I personally like to do secondary factions (at least a few) to level up before tackling main questlines in every TES game.


Grand Marshal of
The Buoyant Armigers
An Official TESOF Guild : Hardcore PvP/PvE


Like Reply
The following 1 user likes Reichmar12's post:
Hentmereb
Post #22939
Member

11
Faction & Race:
Daggerfall Covenant
Dunmer
Oblivion's biggest flaw in my opinion is the screwy leveling system. Basically, when you level any combination of your major skills 10 times, you level up. When you level a skill, it counts toward leveling up its related attribute. When you level up, you choose (3 I think?) attributes to increase by amounts based on the skills you worked on.
(Level up Armorer, Block, or Heavy Armor 10 times and you get an option to increase Endurance by the maximum of 5 when you level.)

The issue is that if you choose your class skills that share a primary attribute, you can never really get enough skill-ups to raise your attributes enough. Say you have Block and Armorer, and you level them up a total of 10, granting you a level. You've managed to get the +5 to Endurance, but only +1 to your other options, and you'll be behind. And if you don't grind out those points properly, you're going to completely miss getting the full bonus to Endurance.

Now, this probably wouldn't be much of an issue except that the only way to get more base health is by leveling up. You get 10% of your Endurance added to your health teach time you level, and it is NOT retroactive. This means if you don't grind out Endurance before anything else, you're probably going to end up horribly gimped late in the game. And the game is pretty relentless in this regard. Lots of players try not to level up because the enemies become way too strong.


My advice is, if you have a save just before leaving the sewers, load it up and redo your class. Get Endurance as a primary attribute, and possibly Luck if you really want to min-max.
Don't pick any Endurance-based skills as major skills, so you can grind out 10 skill-ups with those and get the full +5 bonus. Make sure for the other attributes you want to level up, try to avoid getting multiple skills that are linked to that attribute.

(And honestly, avoid getting multiple skills that are related to any attribute you want a lot of. If you want a lot of Willpower, avoid getting 2 or 3 of the skills linked to Willpower, like Destruction, Restoration, and whatever that other one was.)

With a little grinding early-on, you can save yourself from the pain later.
In short: Avoid Block, Heavy Armor and Armorer as major skills, grind 10 skill-ups in any combination of them (let some mudcrabs hit you or something) immediately after you level. Level immediately when you're able to so you don't accidentally skip that grinding.

After that it's pretty much smooth sailing.
This post was last modified: January 10th 2013 09:01 AM by Nemox
Like Reply
The following 1 user likes Nemox's post:
Hentmereb
Post #22940
Member

82
Faction & Race:
Ebonheart Pact (Nord)
Farm Oblivion gates for sigil stones, best enchants that game has to offer....also the stones get better as your level increases up to Transcendent I think they were called. Another thing to remember is to save before you grab the sigil stone that way if you don't like the one you got you can reload and grab it again until you get the one you wanted.
This post was last modified: January 10th 2013 09:04 AM by Elember
Like Reply
The following 1 user likes Elember's post:
Hentmereb
Post #22967
Member

345
Faction & Race:
Ebonheart Pact (Dunmer)
As nemox said, pay attention to leveling, its tricky part but quite easy for Morrowind vets

Dark brotherhood questline is awesome, you dont want to miss that

And perhaps ask some moderator to move this thred to Blend, as this is wrong forum


Debating with someone on the Internet is like mudwrestling with a pig. You get filthy and the pig loves it
Like Reply
Post #22971
Member

20
Faction & Race:
Ebonheart Pact (Argonian)
As for oblivion if you like stealing stuff bribe the beggars and talk to them, also lockpicks are alot rarer in oblivion than the other games in my opinion,,,may just be cause I suck at lockpicking in oblivion since the game rarely responds to me moving it up making me frustrated and quick on the fingers
There is a guy around the citywall of the imperial city somewhere who sells 30 lockpicks now and then
And I'd Agree on the not picking endurance skills as major especialy if you're a race like the argonians which start out with 30 or so

oh and the cheapest house is in the imperial city in case you need somewhere to store junk and stuff like me since I tend to buy every single alchemy ingredient available

And never ever buy pumpkins and watermelons for alchemy unless you like extremely heavy potions since it works like in morrowind 1 heavy ingredient affects the whole potion weight until you level up, like choosing to use pumpkins at reaching alchemy skill 100 for fatigue potions will hav every single fatigue potions you make from that day on heavy no turning back
This post was last modified: January 10th 2013 11:18 AM by Tricer


Argonian 'Shadowscale Omelet', selfsuppliable food source.
Like Reply
Post #23075
Member

115
Faction & Race:
Ebonheart Pact (Dunmer)
I had oblivion on first weak of its release for PC, before finishing main quest i got quit far up in my lvl, i did all Brotherhood mage guild warrior guild and thief guild quests, and when i decided to finish my main quest, at that time i only closed around 70% of oblivion gates, when i finished main quest all other gates closed and i couldn't go to oblivion anymore : ( that was my biggest regret. I don't know if they change it with new patch, but if you want to go to oblivion try not to rush with main quest line.

@Nemox i lvl my magic and mage skills first (destruction and conjuration as my main), after that i lvl'd bow and from time to time i played with daggers as assassin, i never encountered problem that you mentioned, is it because i went as rang and dint haw to fight mobs in close combat? at max lvl only mob that proven hard to handle were Trolls, had to kite them or i couldn't kill them otherwise : /, other then that i dint find it that hard especially when you haw Archmage staff with 8s paralyze on it XD.
Like Reply
Post #23109
Member

135
Faction & Race:
Ebonheart Pact (Nord)
Oblivion is just great... You'll have so much fun playing,the graphics are great and all.. Good luck with the main quest! I hope you pass it,it's just too easy and too short.


Zeymah of the Bromlokiir. Voth Ahkrin!
Like Reply
Post #23234
Member

5
Faction & Race:
Not Set
An excellent choice. Like in other TES games, it's a good idea to save often your game progress.

The first time I played Oblivion, I retired the character after I completed the main storyline. However, I enjoyed the game more on my second character. Once I got out of the sewers, I didn't touch the main quests at all. Oblivion will probably be the last TES game that features class customization a la Morrowind. Have fun, and don't forget to visit the daedric shrines.
Like Reply
Post #23593
Member

20
Faction & Race:
Ebonheart Pact (Nord)
(January 10th 2013 08:52 AM)Ivixor Wrote:  I'm gonna reply to the part of changing from Vamp to Dawnguard, as I'm a bit of noob in Oblivion :P
No, you cannot change. By the time you start the quests for the Vampires you cannot change...it's like Imperials and Stormcloaks.
However, you can undo your vampirism doing a quest in Morthal (just in case you don't know about it).

Ok, thanks you. It's not that I wanted to get rid of my vampirism, I just wanted to work for the dawnguard and be able to be a vampire lord too.


(January 10th 2013 08:58 AM)Reichmar12 Wrote:  For oblivion, I would recommend going to Anvil before following the main questline beyond the first two or three quests. At Anvil, you'll find the Fighters guild, and you'll be able to do quests in that area, level a bit, and get some good coin/loot. Do you need to? No, because the game scales with you (my biggest problem with Oblivion), but its lame to follow the main quest as a lowbie, IMO.

I personally like to do secondary factions (at least a few) to level up before tackling main questlines in every TES game.

Cool. I like a good guild and was a fan of The Companions in Skyrim (despite not liking how the werewolves were so weak). I'll definitely check it out.


(January 10th 2013 09:00 AM)Nemox Wrote:  Oblivion's biggest flaw in my opinion is the screwy leveling system. Basically, when you level any combination of your major skills 10 times, you level up. When you level a skill, it counts toward leveling up its related attribute. When you level up, you choose (3 I think?) attributes to increase by amounts based on the skills you worked on.
(Level up Armorer, Block, or Heavy Armor 10 times and you get an option to increase Endurance by the maximum of 5 when you level.)

Sounds confusing


(January 10th 2013 09:00 AM)Nemox Wrote:  The issue is that if you choose your class skills that share a primary attribute, you can never really get enough skill-ups to raise your attributes enough. Say you have Block and Armorer, and you level them up a total of 10, granting you a level. You've managed to get the +5 to Endurance, but only +1 to your other options, and you'll be behind. And if you don't grind out those points properly, you're going to completely miss getting the full bonus to Endurance.

Now, this probably wouldn't be much of an issue except that the only way to get more base health is by leveling up. You get 10% of your Endurance added to your health teach time you level, and it is NOT retroactive. This means if you don't grind out Endurance before anything else, you're probably going to end up horribly gimped late in the game. And the game is pretty relentless in this regard. Lots of players try not to level up because the enemies become way too strong.


My advice is, if you have a save just before leaving the sewers, load it up and redo your class. Get Endurance as a primary attribute, and possibly Luck if you really want to min-max.
Don't pick any Endurance-based skills as major skills, so you can grind out 10 skill-ups with those and get the full +5 bonus. Make sure for the other attributes you want to level up, try to avoid getting multiple skills that are linked to that attribute.

(And honestly, avoid getting multiple skills that are related to any attribute you want a lot of. If you want a lot of Willpower, avoid getting 2 or 3 of the skills linked to Willpower, like Destruction, Restoration, and whatever that other one was.)

With a little grinding early-on, you can save yourself from the pain later.
In short: Avoid Block, Heavy Armor and Armorer as major skills, grind 10 skill-ups in any combination of them (let some mudcrabs hit you or something) immediately after you level. Level immediately when you're able to so you don't accidentally skip that grinding.

After that it's pretty much smooth sailing.

Ok, thanks for the advice


(January 10th 2013 09:02 AM)Elember Wrote:  Farm Oblivion gates for sigil stones, best enchants that game has to offer....also the stones get better as your level increases up to Transcendent I think they were called. Another thing to remember is to save before you grab the sigil stone that way if you don't like the one you got you can reload and grab it again until you get the one you wanted.

Ok, cool. I'm not that big into enchantments and all, but I'll definitely check it out.


(January 10th 2013 10:54 AM)Rage Wrote:  As nemox said, pay attention to leveling, its tricky part but quite easy for Morrowind vets

Dark brotherhood questline is awesome, you dont want to miss that

And perhaps ask some moderator to move this thred to Blend, as this is wrong forum

Unfortunately I've never played Morrowind. I started with Skyrim and moved back when I got Oblivion, lol. As for the Dark Brotherhood Questline, I liked the one in Skyrim so I'm hoping Oblivion's is just as awesome.


(January 10th 2013 11:12 AM)Tricer Wrote:  As for oblivion if you like stealing stuff bribe the beggars and talk to them, also lockpicks are alot rarer in oblivion than the other games in my opinion,,,may just be cause I suck at lockpicking in oblivion since the game rarely responds to me moving it up making me frustrated and quick on the fingers
There is a guy around the citywall of the imperial city somewhere who sells 30 lockpicks now and then
And I'd Agree on the not picking endurance skills as major especialy if you're a race like the argonians which start out with 30 or so

oh and the cheapest house is in the imperial city in case you need somewhere to store junk and stuff like me since I tend to buy every single alchemy ingredient available

And never ever buy pumpkins and watermelons for alchemy unless you like extremely heavy potions since it works like in morrowind 1 heavy ingredient affects the whole potion weight until you level up, like choosing to use pumpkins at reaching alchemy skill 100 for fatigue potions will hav every single fatigue potions you make from that day on heavy no turning back

Glad to know about the house being cheap in the Imperial City. I'll need somewhere early on. Thanks for the rest of the advice as well.


(January 11th 2013 06:36 AM)Ewan Wrote:  I had oblivion on first weak of its release for PC, before finishing main quest i got quit far up in my lvl, i did all Brotherhood mage guild warrior guild and thief guild quests, and when i decided to finish my main quest, at that time i only closed around 70% of oblivion gates, when i finished main quest all other gates closed and i couldn't go to oblivion anymore : ( that was my biggest regret. I don't know if they change it with new patch, but if you want to go to oblivion try not to rush with main quest line.

@Nemox i lvl my magic and mage skills first (destruction and conjuration as my main), after that i lvl'd bow and from time to time i played with daggers as assassin, i never encountered problem that you mentioned, is it because i went as rang and dint haw to fight mobs in close combat? at max lvl only mob that proven hard to handle were Trolls, had to kite them or i couldn't kill them otherwise : /, other then that i dint find it that hard especially when you haw Archmage staff with 8s paralyze on it XD.

I tend to be warrior-style and focus on one-handed and light armor. I like close combat and try not to work too much with magicka or any two-handed weapons.


(January 11th 2013 11:06 AM)Ulfgar the Fearless Wrote:  Oblivion is just great... You'll have so much fun playing,the graphics are great and all.. Good luck with the main quest! I hope you pass it,it's just too easy and too short.

Thanks. If it's too easy, I can put the highest difficulty on, lol.


(January 12th 2013 08:54 AM)Sanguine Wrote:  An excellent choice. Like in other TES games, it's a good idea to save often your game progress.

The first time I played Oblivion, I retired the character after I completed the main storyline. However, I enjoyed the game more on my second character. Once I got out of the sewers, I didn't touch the main quests at all. Oblivion will probably be the last TES game that features class customization a la Morrowind. Have fun, and don't forget to visit the daedric shrines.

I save as often as I can. Whenever I enter a new area or dungeon or even a specific part of a dungeon I save it just in case.


The Obsidian Brotherhood

A strong arm to slay the weak.
An iron heart that knows no fear.
And a foul mouth to boast about it!
Such are the virtues of the pact!

Check out The Elder Scrolls Kalheim
http://elderscrollskalheim.webs.com/
Like Reply
Post #23857
Member

441
Faction & Race:
Aldmeri Dominion (Khajiit)
I suggest Cheydinhal Petshop Mod from TESNexus if you like having an awesome pet following you around and fighting with you.


TESO - - Multiplayer: "M'aiq does not know this word. You wish others to help you in your quest? Coward! If you must, search for the Argonian Im-Leet, or perhaps the big Nord, Rolf the Uber. They will certainly wish to join you." M'aiq the Liar.

"Va Khaj Dar - Khajiity's united? M'aiq will join!" M'aiq the Liar
Like Reply
Post #24021
Member

20
Faction & Race:
Ebonheart Pact (Nord)
(January 15th 2013 10:21 AM)CedarLilly Wrote:  I suggest Cheydinhal Petshop Mod from TESNexus if you like having an awesome pet following you around and fighting with you.

You can do mods on the 360?


The Obsidian Brotherhood

A strong arm to slay the weak.
An iron heart that knows no fear.
And a foul mouth to boast about it!
Such are the virtues of the pact!

Check out The Elder Scrolls Kalheim
http://elderscrollskalheim.webs.com/
Like Reply
Post #24056
Member

441
Faction & Race:
Aldmeri Dominion (Khajiit)
(January 16th 2013 08:30 AM)RirodenOrkraft Wrote:  
(January 15th 2013 10:21 AM)CedarLilly Wrote:  I suggest Cheydinhal Petshop Mod from TESNexus if you like having an awesome pet following you around and fighting with you.

You can do mods on the 360?

Oops! no, didn't know you were playing on 360, sorry.


TESO - - Multiplayer: "M'aiq does not know this word. You wish others to help you in your quest? Coward! If you must, search for the Argonian Im-Leet, or perhaps the big Nord, Rolf the Uber. They will certainly wish to join you." M'aiq the Liar.

"Va Khaj Dar - Khajiity's united? M'aiq will join!" M'aiq the Liar
Like Reply
Post #24231
Member

20
Faction & Race:
Ebonheart Pact (Nord)
(January 16th 2013 10:55 AM)CedarLilly Wrote:  
(January 16th 2013 08:30 AM)RirodenOrkraft Wrote:  
(January 15th 2013 10:21 AM)CedarLilly Wrote:  I suggest Cheydinhal Petshop Mod from TESNexus if you like having an awesome pet following you around and fighting with you.

You can do mods on the 360?

Oops! no, didn't know you were playing on 360, sorry.

That's ok, lol. If I had it on pc, I'd be getting mods like Randy Savage Dragon and Sith race, lightsabres, etc.


The Obsidian Brotherhood

A strong arm to slay the weak.
An iron heart that knows no fear.
And a foul mouth to boast about it!
Such are the virtues of the pact!

Check out The Elder Scrolls Kalheim
http://elderscrollskalheim.webs.com/
Like Reply




User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)
(Register or log in to remove advertisements - why ads?)


This fan site is not affiliated with ZeniMax Media Inc. or any of its subsidiaries. Including, but not limited to, Bethesda Game Studios and ZeniMax Online Studios.
The Elder Scrolls® images © ZeniMax Media Inc. / Forum content © TESOF.com