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The Tamrielic Timeline (Understanding the Dates)


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Hey there everyone. I'm looking to try figuring out when my RP Character would be born to be accurate within the TESO timeline.

I know that the TESO Timeline starts about E2 582 or something. I looked on the wiki, but apparently theres nothing on that specific date yet.

But, anyways; I wanted to ask generally: How do you read the Tamrielic dates? How much time is in between the Timeline Dates?

(For example: E2 (that would be like, 2nd Era, right?) How does one determine the number after? Are those 582 days? hours? years? months? If anyone could, try to put how to understand the dates in a simple fashion. (Cuz I've been looking around/trying to understand them, but my heads spinning in circles, and no one seems to know. And, if someone could just randomly give me a date that my Dunmer could be born so she would be about beginning adulthood at the first day TESO would launch, that would be good too. I don't want anything too specific. Perhaps the Month could be Frostfall, 28th on Loredas. But I want a timeline date too. XD

Specifics would help too; a.k.a 'Sun's Dawn, Middas 15th' and the E2 *enter whatever the number is here*

Anyone able to explain it fairly simply to me? Apologies if its an easy thing to figure out. Im not good with timelines. :(
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The Elder Scrolls time follows that of our Gregorian calendar. The game's year has twelve months, approximately of 30 days each. The weeks have seven days, although they go by the names of: Sundas (Sunday, first day of the week), Morndas, Tirdas, Middas, Turdas, Fredas, Loredas.

And the times are stated in following format: Era, Year. So TESO takes place in The second era (of recorded time), Year 58X. So if you, for example want your character to be approximately 30 years old. He/She is born 2E 550.

For relevant information about the calendar, the years etc:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Calendar

Constellations, Dwemer Alphabet etc:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Astronomy

For the actual Timeline:
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline

Both are helpful sources of information.


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(November 21st 2012 01:57 AM)Nehemia Wrote:  The Elder Scrolls time follows that of our Gregorian calendar. The game's year has twelve months, approximately of 30 days each. The weeks have seven days, although they go by the names of: Sundas (Sunday, first day of the week), Morndas, Tirdas, Middas, Turdas, Fredas, Loredas.

And the times are stated in following format: Era, Year. So TESO takes place in The second era (of recorded time), Year 58X. So if you, for example want your character to be approximately 30 years old. He/She is born 2E 550.

For relevant information about the calendar, the years etc:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Calendar

Constellations, Dwemer Alphabet etc:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Astronomy

For the actual Timeline:
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline

Both are helpful sources of information.

Thank you very much Nehemia! I think that answered my question quite clearly. :) My apologies if it was fairly easy/obvious... but I looked over the links you posted beforehand, and none really explained like, what the format was. Like, x-y=z.

But, all in all, -thank- you so much. :) Would you say: 'Sun's Dawn, Middas 15th' 2E 550? (As an example; the date below is the month/day I'd want. :3)

(As in, normally we'd say like... 'I was born on January 5th, 1993', how would a character say that in the Elderscrolls Universe?
(I'm thinking 'The 28th of Frostfall, on Middas, Second Era'?) (where would the 550 come in?) )
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To keep date, is no easy. Only years of timeline from TES lores, very few with dates...

TESO start E2 583 without date.

Uesp timeline of lores:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dawn_Era
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Merethic_Era
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:First_Era
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Second_Era

After E2 583, just drop it. We create own history, timeline ++

You need to create your idea with date inside E2 583, or wait until TESO open in-game, so you can look date...I bet.


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An era is a time period that does not have a predetermined number of years. Eras just start and end when a major event occurs. They can have hundreds of years or thousands of years.

Example: Emperor Tiber Septim united all of Tamriel into the Empire in 2E 857 which ended the 2nd Era and started the 3rd Era.

So an era is a time period, and makes up the E part, (2nd Era is 2E.) The number that comes after that is the year. In your example, 2E 550 would be the 550th year of the 2nd Era.

TESO is set during 2E 582 as it states on the official website, "Four years ago, in 2E 578, an arcane explosion of energy in the Imperial City set off mystical aftershocks that swept across Nirn." (Source)

In terms of how long is a dunmer's lifespan and when they would reach adulthood, I'm afraid I can only guess on what that is! Mer, being mer, do live longer then men of course. I figured 34 would still be a younger adult for my own dunmer character but I could be wrong.

If my character were to say when they were born, I'm guessing it'd be something like this: "I was born on the 2nd of Morning Star, the 548th year of the 2nd era." I'm guessing if you're a young elf or a shorter life-span race, you can leave out the era part. (It's not like we say we're born in 1993 A.D. Tongue_out)
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pfft, yah, E2 582, is correct for now. :)

Edit: It was not my fault.

First: Facebook TESO > E2 583 >

Quote:These events began with the Soulburst, in 2E 579, four years before present

Second: TESO Website > E2 582 >

Quote:Four years ago, in 2E 578, an arcane explosion of energy in the Imperial City set off mystical aftershocks that swept across Nirn
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(November 21st 2012 02:48 AM)Veska DeVal Wrote:  
(November 21st 2012 01:57 AM)Nehemia Wrote:  The Elder Scrolls time follows that of our Gregorian calendar. The game's year has twelve months, approximately of 30 days each. The weeks have seven days, although they go by the names of: Sundas (Sunday, first day of the week), Morndas, Tirdas, Middas, Turdas, Fredas, Loredas.

And the times are stated in following format: Era, Year. So TESO takes place in The second era (of recorded time), Year 58X. So if you, for example want your character to be approximately 30 years old. He/She is born 2E 550.

For relevant information about the calendar, the years etc:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Calendar

Constellations, Dwemer Alphabet etc:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Astronomy

For the actual Timeline:
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline

Both are helpful sources of information.

Thank you very much Nehemia! I think that answered my question quite clearly. :) My apologies if it was fairly easy/obvious... but I looked over the links you posted beforehand, and none really explained like, what the format was. Like, x-y=z.

But, all in all, -thank- you so much. :) Would you say: 'Sun's Dawn, Middas 15th' 2E 550? (As an example; the date below is the month/day I'd want. :3)

(As in, normally we'd say like... 'I was born on January 5th, 1993', how would a character say that in the Elderscrolls Universe?
(I'm thinking 'The 28th of Frostfall, on Middas, Second Era'?) (where would the 550 come in?) )

I advice not to use specific days. Since the calendar has leap years, unless you're willing to do the math. (For example, Molag Bal's summoning day has shifted by 4 days. Not to mention Morrowind only had 11 months etc). Its better to go with just 15th of Sun's Dawn, 2E 550. Giving you the birth sign of Lover: Those born under the sign of the Lover are graceful and passionate.


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Thank you guys so much for the responses! They help out a ton! @_@

(And, I'll probably just stick to what Nehemia put for my character's birth date. Math/Timelines confuse me to no end. XD (Well, game-based timelines.)

I'll keep all this in mind! Thank you everyone!

Edit: I may change Sun's Dawn to Second Seed, to be born under The Shadow. Would make more sense for her. :3 I'm hoping that wouldn't change anything. Lawl!
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I was reading around a year ago a story about auri-el and the different shards of existence and how nirn is just 1 shard or plane and it was made by lorkhan any body else know where this came from i lost the source. Links are appreciated. Also do you think religion in TES is kinda like our religions that they have slowly been built upon and there are different versions of the same thing. Kind of like Summerian text to Hebrew then to Christianity and now how it is all being related in New Age movement (im not a full believer of the movement but it offers interesting perspectives on spirituality.)
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its actually more of. the gods do actually exist. but they are interpreted differently by the different cultures.
Also some deities have different aspects of them. Sometimes these aspects are just different figures beeing mistaken. this is the case with alduin who is the nordic version fo akatosh, but in skyrim we find out hes actually not.

i myself doubt that TES runs on "clap your hands if you believe" since basically. everyone is godhead anyway...
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(November 23rd 2012 07:48 PM)(: DiMiTri :) Wrote:  <Snip>
About Nirn being one "plane of existence", this is true in the sense that it is just one mortal realm of existence, with others such as the void of Oblivion (which contains multitudes of Daedric planes and pocket dimensions in it) and Aetherius, the origin of Magic, as well as the God-Planets. The structure of the universe in TES is not fully understood, but there are a great deal of sources on it, and Cosmology is a pretty good explanation.

As for whether Nirn is just one possible Daedric Plane: this theory is developed by the antagonist Mankar Camoran in TES IV. His books, the Mythic Dawn Commentaries, are a little deep and heady to understand unless you're familiar with the lore he's referencing, but it's an incredible interesting view to take. However, most people believe that while Nirn is surrounded by Oblivion (with Aetherius beyond) it is not itself a Daedric plane.

As for the development of religion in TES... you have to understand, that nothing in Tamriel is purely based on belief. Myth shapes the fabric of the universe and the underlying truth is often contradictory and impossible. For instance, Auri-El appears as a giant warlike elf who ascends to the heavens, Akatosh is a benevolent dragon that blesses the empires of Men (or was that Shezarr?), Alkosh is a cat-dragon and Alduin is the end of the world. However, these are generally understood to be the same deity, despite the fact that they interact with the world in real and immediate ways. This is just one example of the way that multiple contradictory views can all be true in some way and yet false.

There is no single "root" of religion or creation myth in TES because of the jumbled nature of the origin of the universe. Before the arrival of the Time-Dragon to stablise the universe, cause and effect and linear time have no meaning. Nothing from this period, the Dawn, can be known for sure. This is also the time from which many myths arise. Since the religion of each Tamrielic people develops little over time (and clear historical events, such as the formation of the First Empire, can be pointed to as examples of change in beliefs) then the evolution of belief in the real world is not an adequate comparison. In the real world, religions are built upon existing beliefs and supposed supernatural occurences. In Tamriel, they are just different perspectives of the insane mass of myth that gives rise to and shapes the world.

edit: got there before me... this is off-topic anyway.
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