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Time out in eso pve?!


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And I quote...

"TWELVE PERSON GROUP PVE:

Trials. Twelve people fighting through an increasingly difficult experience. A Trial is instanced to your group of twelve. There is a staging area where you can plan your attack and the Trial itself.

In a Trial, you will have a limited number of resurrections, known as a Soul Reservoir. Too many resurrections mean that you have failed the trial. It takes a lot of coordination to survive a Trial. The enemies you face in a Trial will be difficult, while the surroundings are some of the most beautiful places in ESO. Provided you do survive and make it to the end of a Trial, your group might make it to the leaderboard. Trials have a running clock and mistakes, including deaths, can add a time penalty. Turn in a great time, however, and you might make it to the top of the leaderboard. If you fail, your group can restart and try again."

Do you think this would be something that would kill the experience of freedom in this game?. http://elderscrollsonline.com/en/news/po...an-content
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I'm not sure how it would take away a sense of freedom in the game. Maybe one could argue that what is essentially limited lives in these trials takes away players "freedom" to lolly-gag and/or be generally terrible at the game (a situation specific to Trials), but even still, the simple fact that this existing serves only to ADD to the sense of freedom in the game simply by adding more ways to play it. That's my opinion atleast. :)


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Respect... but

...fact that there will be some kind of time out that doesn't worry you one bit, having to wait how long because this look like this will penalize players by just getting killed or loosing. That doesn't seems very freedom to me.
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What do you mean by time out?
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(March 26th 2014 06:22 PM)Infamous Wrote:  What do you mean by time out?

the Trials have a timer


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(March 26th 2014 06:24 PM)Rickter Wrote:  
(March 26th 2014 06:22 PM)Infamous Wrote:  What do you mean by time out?

the Trials have a timer

Ohhh, just saw where it said running clock. I just thought it had a set amount of deaths allowed. Personally I don't like the timer, I never liked timers in any other games either. I'd rather just have a limited amount of deaths allowed, and the best scores be on a leaderboard. Timer is unnecessary imo.

EDIT: Yeah, I think running clock means it clocks your time, it's not a timer. At least that is how I see it.
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(March 26th 2014 06:33 PM)Infamous Wrote:  
(March 26th 2014 06:24 PM)Rickter Wrote:  
(March 26th 2014 06:22 PM)Infamous Wrote:  What do you mean by time out?

the Trials have a timer

Ohhh, just saw where it said running clock. I just thought it had a set amount of deaths allowed. Personally I don't like the timer, I never liked timers in any other games either. I'd rather just have a limited amount of deaths allowed, and the best scores be on a leaderboard. Timer is unnecessary imo.

actually i think you may be right man, it says running clock and i assume thats for leaderboard purposes. there is not timer lockout. yeah so i dont really know what hte OP is talking about.

can we get some clarification?


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(March 26th 2014 06:05 PM)Leinad Wrote:  Respect... but

...fact that there will be some kind of time out that doesn't worry you one bit, having to wait how long because this look like this will penalize players by just getting killed or loosing. That doesn't seems very freedom to me.

No it doesn't worry me in the slightest. The addition of trials doesn't force anyone to play it. The only people who partake will be those who want to. Maybe for one persons preferred playstyle, limited lives and time keeping may not seem like freedom, and if that's the case, the solution is simple: they don't have to play in trials, so they don't. The player is free to choose. But other players may enjoy that type of setting and now have the option to play how they want to. For the first player, no freedom in the game is lost: they can enjoy the game in their own way. For the second player, more freedom is given: they have a new way in which they can enjoy the world.


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@Do'Rakk Now that you gave me that other point of view, I might jump in to a BIG wrong conclusion of how they are trying to perpetrate this idea in game, if is something that it would be an option then yes, that is cool still. But the fact that there ain't nowhere that said's that you can make it an option. It did got a little bit of my worries.

@Infamous and @Rickter leader board?... I'm still a bit confused.
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Yeah, there are leaderboards that will show the best times. When they say running clock I am pretty sure they mean, when the trial start a clock starts at 00:00 and when stops when you finish the trial. Things such as mistakes and deaths have adds penalty time which will add on to your final time at the end.


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(March 26th 2014 07:34 PM)Leinad Wrote:  @Do'Rakk Now that you gave me that other point of view, I might jump in to a BIG wrong conclusion of how they are trying to perpetrate this idea in game, if is something that it would be an option then yes, that is cool still. But the fact that there ain't nowhere that said's that you can make it an option. It did got a little bit of my worries.

@Infamous and @Rickter leader board?... I'm still a bit confused.

Maybe optional is not directly said but it is sufficiently implied. It's one of several types of group content. It's instanced with trial specific rule sets. Considering group content from the beta, you won't be forced to do trials if you are in a 12 man group just like you weren't forced to even do group content period in any size group (but you had the option to). Trials, in regards to being optional, will be the exact same as all of the other group content.


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What I took from reading it was that it times how long your group takes to do the trials.


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i dont think there is anything inherently wrong with a timer. i mean, you can choose to completely ignore the timer and play the trial at your own pace. that timer is in place for leaderboard purposes so the hardcore guilds or w/e can make a mark.


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(March 26th 2014 07:36 PM)Infamous Wrote:  Yeah, there are leaderboards that will show the best times. When they say running clock I am pretty sure they mean, when the trial start a clock starts at 00:00 and when stops when you finish the trial. Things such as mistakes and deaths have adds penalty time which will add on to your final time at the end.

(March 26th 2014 07:49 PM)DoRakk Wrote:  Maybe optional is not directly said but it is sufficiently implied. It's one of several types of group content. It's instanced with trial specific rule sets. Considering group content from the beta, you won't be forced to do trials if you are in a 12 man group just like you weren't forced to even do group content period in any size group (but you had the option to). Trials, in regards to being optional, will be the exact same as all of the other group content.

Got it @Do'Rakk and @Infamous thanks for the clarifications.
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