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Understanding the Aldmeri Dominion


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For those who can't seem to comprehend the time period this game's in and how the Aldmeri Dominion actually set's it's views. Maybe this will help you rationalize your thinking about the Altmer as well as the Aldmeri Dominion.

Many of you think TESO Altmer are supremecists but read this....

Thalmor Rule (Skyrim - 4E 22 to present)
The Second Aldmeri Dominion, is a rich and powerful empire established by the Thalmor in 4E 22[1], a group of radical Altmer in the Summerset Isles who espoused the supremacy of the various races of Mer over the Men. Seeking to recreate the First Aldmeri Dominion, the Thalmor expanded their power into the provinces of Valenwood, Elsweyr, and briefly into Cyrodiil and Hammerfell.

This is Era's after what happened during the current game TESO.

Queen Ayrenn Rule (The Elder Scrolls Online - 2E 264)
I have no hatred for the races of Man, but they are young. Like all children, they are driven by emotion. They lack the wisdom that comes with age. I would sooner place an Altmer infant on the Ruby Throne than surrender Tamriel to their capricious whims.

The Altmer, the Bosmer and the Khajiit share the common traits of intelligence, patience and reason. We do not seek riches or plunder. Domination is not our goal, nor is the acclamation of power for its own sake.


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Understand that Thalmor were radicals who re-created the original Aldmeri Dominion in their own image. They were a minority who took control over everyone and grew. We don't know what happened during the time period of TESO. For all we know Queen Ayrenn could have been killed during a peace treaty or Assassinated. Don't judge until you know the truth....
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I wish people would do a little research before they start bashing others...

Great post Liger!!


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(December 16th 2012 06:06 PM)Reiv Wrote:  I wish people would do a little research before they start bashing others...

Great post Liger!!

Thank you!! I hope this calms the rage between many. Hopefully it also rationalizes the thinking of others who only know of one time period, Skyrim... Thus bringing a greater number to our forces.
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I primarily picked the Aldmeri Dominion based upon the fact that all of the races were old. I like to think of myself IRL as pretty intelligent, and that gets me through most situations on top. With this game, I'm going with what "feels" right. The intelligence, elegance to pretty barabaric, yet finding a common ground to work together seems to have drawn me in. We shall forge the Dominion into Queen Ayrenn's image, and let the hooligans have their fun ruining it when we're all dead. :)


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Thanks so much for this! The amount of times I've had to tell people the Altmer aren't supremacists is ridiculous. However can no one start a guild of Thalmor in TESO just because it will ruin the game completely for all elves the moment they set a low standard :/


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"I have no hatred for the races of man but they are young"
Benevolent elitism is still elitism
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(December 17th 2012 05:19 PM)Iogairn Wrote:  "I have no hatred for the races of man but they are young"
Benevolent elitism is still elitism

Because Elves are superior to humans. That statement is a fact, not an opinion. A young altmer has more knowledge than that of a young human. Elves live much longer than humans... So I don't get what your point is.


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(December 17th 2012 05:28 PM)Liger Wrote:  
(December 17th 2012 05:19 PM)Iogairn Wrote:  "I have no hatred for the races of man but they are young"
Benevolent elitism is still elitism

Because Elves are superior to humans. That statement is a fact, not an opinion. A young altmer has more knowledge than that of a young human. Elves live much longer than humans... So I don't get what your point is.

So why did the altmer bend the knee to the Empire (a human empire)
Also, they should be using their "superior qualities" to help men, not rule them.
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(December 17th 2012 05:30 PM)Iogairn Wrote:  So why did the altmer bend the knee to the Empire (a human empire)
Also, they should be using their "superior qualities" to help men, not rule them.

" The Empire and its Bosmer allies, caught completely off guard, were quickly defeated by the much-better prepared Altmer forces that invaded Valenwood on the heels of the coup. Thus was the Aldmeri Dominion reborn"

The Great War

"The terms were harsh, but Titus II believed that it was necessary to secure peace and give the Empire a chance to regain its strength. The two most controversial terms of the Concordat were the banning of the worship of Talos and the cession of a large section of southern Hammerfell (most of what was already occupied by Aldmeri forces). Critics have pointed out that the Concordat is almost identical to the ultimatum the Emperor rejected five years earlier. However, there is a great difference between agreeing to such terms under the mere threat of war, and agreeing to them at the end of a long and destructive war. No part of the Empire would have "

Although yes in the end it was the Empire that was so called victorious. They were the ones who truly bent their knees. The Aldmeri dominion had sucessfully achieved what they asked 5 years prior. The human's were just trying to be greedy and also had so much PRIDE that the result was thousands of dying. All those soldiers DEAD because of the Empires pride was too much. It's funny how in the end the Aldmeri Dominion were the real winners of the war.
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I meant in the beginning. Ysgramor kills lots of elves. Talos unites the all Tamriel. That sort of thing...

Besides, you haven't answered my other point; about them helping people, not ruling.
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The Altmer not helping Men has nothing to do based on their superiority really. It's just their attitude. I'm sure if you ask most people, they'll agree that the Altmer are a snobby bunch of elves. They don't help because they don't want to. Under leadership of Queen Ayrenn we're helping people now.. if that still counts. Might be a little off the time line, but it's still help.


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(December 17th 2012 05:55 PM)Iogairn Wrote:  I meant in the beginning. Ysgramor kills lots of elves. Talos unites the all Tamriel. That sort of thing...

Besides, you haven't answered my other point; about them helping people, not ruling.

"Domination is not our goal, nor is the acclamation of power for its own sake. "

Proves that Queen Ayrenn's goals is to help all of the lands as a whole and not hoarde the power that human's use.... Also she saved most of the Khajiit race from the Flu...


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(December 17th 2012 06:46 PM)Liger Wrote:  
(December 17th 2012 05:55 PM)Iogairn Wrote:  I meant in the beginning. Ysgramor kills lots of elves. Talos unites the all Tamriel. That sort of thing...

Besides, you haven't answered my other point; about them helping people, not ruling.

"Domination is not our goal, nor is the acclamation of power for its own sake. "

Proves that Queen Ayrenn's goals is to help all of the lands as a whole and not hoarde the power that human's use.... Also she saved most of the Khajiit race from the Flu...

Liger, Did Ayrenn bribe you with a flu shoot? Any on to being more serious.

(December 17th 2012 05:55 PM)Iogairn Wrote:  I meant in the beginning. Ysgramor kills lots of elves. Talos unites the all Tamriel. That sort of thing...

Besides, you haven't answered my other point; about them helping people, not ruling.

Really ruling and helping go together. Lets say you are being ruled by a dictator. A rebel kills him and takes over his control. He then proceeds to help his people. However since he is now ruling them, he is just helping himself by settling the people. And honestly you can really tie just about everyone helping others into them helping themselves.


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(December 17th 2012 06:46 PM)Liger Wrote:  
(December 17th 2012 05:55 PM)Iogairn Wrote:  I meant in the beginning. Ysgramor kills lots of elves. Talos unites the all Tamriel. That sort of thing...

Besides, you haven't answered my other point; about them helping people, not ruling.

"Domination is not our goal, nor is the acclamation of power for its own sake. "

Proves that Queen Ayrenn's goals is to help all of the lands as a whole and not hoarde the power that human's use.... Also she saved most of the Khajiit race from the Flu...

As sh thinks that men are inferior, she will do all the thinking for them. But how long until she begans to take advantage. Or when she dies, can you promise that they will have the same agenda. All dictatorships are bad, disguising it by saying you're only trying to help doesnt do much
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It is never said that there will be a dictatorship. There will probably still be some sort of parliament like the Elder Council.


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