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By far the most exhilarating part of TES lore is the daedra! However the daedra are hardly incorporated in TES games sure in oblivion we had like 8 gates to close and an extra 30 random ones, shivering isle DLC gave players a glimpse at the true realm of a daedric prince. Now with TESO coming out we will have a look at a 2nd prince's domain! But if you're like me who loves the daedra and their princes why would we stop at 2? In TESO I hope that the team will create expansions that recreate the shivering isle (since it's rebuilt every millennia from the grey march) along with creating new prince domains. One example of a realm I'd love to see would be sanguine! The party prince! Or even complete hermaous Moira's realm instead of just small libraries from books from the DragonBorn DLC. I believe ever prince deserves their place in this game! Please leave thoughts on the idea of more oblivion domains in expansions of TESO and what daedric Prince you think would have the best realm to hang around in.


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I've always wanted to see the different planes of Oblivion. So far we've gotten a good look at 2. Dagon's and Uncle Sheo's. In Oblivion there was a daedric quest where we went through different "rounds" of enemies in his plane but it was just the plain old Dagon's Oblivion with a few cool pieces of architecture. I would love to get an in-depth look of these places.
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More enemy types is always better, but I'm sure from a game design standpoint it's a tradeoff between more enemy types and making the enemy types we already have distinct and memorable. While dozens of distinct daedra abound in lore, around a half dozen or so are present in Skyrim but still are all distinct in their own way. Conversely, in Oblivion and Morrowind a lot of them were very similar to one another. Xivilai and Aurorans use the same animations, for instance, and fighting a Dremora is very similar to fighting a Mazken or Aureal. While they have cool lore associated with them, from a gameplay standpoint it doesn't make sense to dedicate all the resources required to model the dozens and dozens of unique daedra. ESO should stick to fan favorites and ones specifically associated with Coldharbour, like Clannfear. I think they'll succeed this way.
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We want more Daedra? Do we? I don't think so... We had enough Daedra back in Oblivion, and did enough for them in Skyrim... Idk about you, but considering Molag Bal has our souls... That's enough Daedra danger for me


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And in Oblivion you became a Daedric prince. And controlled a whole plane of Oblivion. There are perks to daedra. Plus without daedra what would the elder scrolls series be? They are in every aspect of the game but don't have enough of them in the actual game. I think that they should do an exapantion with the older races too like the Dwemer and snow elves because they are a huge background element that creates the game but has no real part in the actual gameplay. I suppose it's just me that hates so to speak "open ended theories" in games.[/quote]


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Being fair, I find the Aedra much more interesting than the Daedra. They created Mundus (The Plane of Mortals) and everything in it. The Daedra, who weren't involved in Mundus' making came and have decided to do as they wish, and ensuring that people follow them. The Aedra are much more interesting for numerous reasons. They can stop the Daedra from reaching Mundus in their PHYSICAL form (Hence why there are statues to communicate with the Aedra) and why the Daedra, including Mehrunes Dagon, could enter. Akatosh, however, through the Amulet of Kings, his gift to Alessia, and the Mortal Plane, channelled his powers through to Martin, making him turn in to the Avatar of Akatosh, removing Dagon from Mundus...

Well, that is pretty much it, but I can bet it isn't exactly lore accurate, but eh... It sums it up imo


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(December 5th 2013 02:26 PM)Svadas Wrote:  Being fair, I find the Aedra much more interesting than the Daedra. They created Mundus (The Plane of Mortals) and everything in it. The Daedra, who weren't involved in Mundus' making came and have decided to do as they wish, and ensuring that people follow them. The Aedra are much more interesting for numerous reasons. They can stop the Daedra from reaching Mundus in their PHYSICAL form (Hence why there are statues to communicate with the Aedra) and why the Daedra, including Mehrunes Dagon, could enter. Akatosh, however, through the Amulet of Kings, his gift to Alessia, and the Mortal Plane, channelled his powers through to Martin, making him turn in to the Avatar of Akatosh, removing Dagon from Mundus...

Well, that is pretty much it, but I can bet it isn't exactly lore accurate, but eh... It sums it up imo

The actual creators of Mundus are Lorkhan and Magnus to some extent. Of course, the Aedra were involved, tricked into the creation of the mortal plane, but they actually gave only their divine energy, which was nearly entirely consumed in the process. The power of the Divine is questionable, as even their priests use Magicka like any other mage does. Of course, there are miracles. But Daedra have 'miracles', too.

And Akatosh is the Avatar of Auri-El, who is time himself. You can count Akatosh to the Aedra, the eight Divines, but not Auri-El, who is much stronger.


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I haven't tried to read into lore and I may be wrong about his but according to the Mythic Dawn In Oblivion, Mundas was originally Dagon's plane of oblivion but had to move to another plane when the Divines cast him out. Again I may be wrong, I'm just speaking from words of The Mythic Dawn while playing Oblivion.


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(December 5th 2013 07:37 PM)Osiris Wrote:  I haven't tried to read into lore and I may be wrong about his but according to the Mythic Dawn In Oblivion, Mundas was originally Dagon's plane of oblivion but had to move to another plane when the Divines cast him out. Again I may be wrong, I'm just speaking from words of The Mythic Dawn while playing Oblivion.

It's religion. As such, you can decide to believe it or not. Just be prepared for the vast majority of lore enthusiasts as well as the inhabitants of Tamriel to chalk it up as false propaganda used by Mehrunes Dagon to persuade people to serve him. While it MAY be the truth, based on the sheer amount of lore going against this claim it is most likely false.
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I do think that the design team keeps the Daedra princes in mind for expansions and what not. It's a great amount of lore to draw from for creating epic quests and new landmasses. I wouldn't mind seeing the domains of the princes after I've seen the bulk of what TESO has to offer!

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Lore wise due to the Aedra giving Mundas their essence and power the daedra are much more powerful in full form, the daedra that come through the gates are only projections of the daedra in oblivion, making them to be a seemingly endless force the only exception is Dagon who was deleted by the avatar of auri-el (believed by some lore that auri-el had transformed into akatosh in the eyes of man,with different people the original Aedra had converted to be the divines) [i had started reading into this since I had recently bought all games from arena to skyrim]


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auri-el and akatosh are the same being, akatosh is the human name, and auri-el is the elven name


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I have always been fond of the Daedric Princesses. They arent all bad some can be considered good so maybe the fact that some are good may play a part in the game, just my thoughts.


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I could see there being a Cult of Boethia considering Boethia and Molag Bal are total enemies.
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I absolutely love the Daedra! the more madness the better! I think they are all fantastically designed and I love the differences between the Daedra and Aedra.


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