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An Interesting Quote From The Elder Scrolls Wiki...


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"Aldmeri Dominion

Valenwood also became part of the Aldmeri Dominion, a coalition of the Altmer and Bosmer that was considered to be the most stable empire in Tamriel. They ruled until the armies of Tiber Septim wiped them out."

So, according to this, the Aldmeri Dominion ruled in the Second Era, and had the most stable empire in Tamriel, till Tiber Septim wiped them out... does this mean that the Aldmeri Dominion ultimately won, right up until the Imperials took power?
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Very interesting could we please have a link?
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http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Valenwood

Under the "Aldemri Dominion" title.
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Thankyou, just had a quick read of that section and it would appear that according to the lore we do win, however it does seem to miss out the khajit in this alliance.
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Even though I will probably go ebon heart pact that would make a whole lot of sense considering the fact Tiber Septim specifically aimed at uniting the nords and reachmen as well as the redguards and focused attacks and battles along ValenWood and such where as he made treaties with Morrowind and the tribunal.


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error you have used the elderscrolls wikia

please terminate this thread.
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Why is that a problem it is a quick way to access information yes not all of it is absolutely accurate and there are obviously some things missing, but not everyone has the books that bethesda has released. Also if I am not mistaken you hit on someone who wanted a back story that you viewed as not canon because of immortality stating that it never happened in elder scrolls. It has and if you want I can cite a few examples. Also you hit on the same person for stating molag'bol can not be killed when in fact as far as it has been stated in the series only the Aedra can die where as the Daedra are only banished or temporarily destroyed. So to be a purist when you yourself already hit on someone with misinformation is a really ridiculous notion. No offense intended, but it is tiresome to just see someone going around doing that I will admit on other threads you have made some good points and I agree with you on quite a few things actually. Just trying to civilly point out maybe that you should calm down on the purism stuff.
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(February 26th 2013, 10:31 AM)MaxxRocker Wrote: Why is that a problem it is a quick way to access information yes not all of it is absolutely accurate and there are obviously some things missing, but not everyone has the books that bethesda has released. Also if I am not mistaken you hit on someone who wanted a back story that you viewed as not canon because of immortality stating that it never happened in elder scrolls. It has and if you want I can cite a few examples. Also you hit on the same person for stating molag'bol can not be killed when in fact as far as it has been stated in the series only the Aedra can die where as the Daedra are only banished or temporarily destroyed. So to be a purist when you yourself already hit on someone with misinformation is a really ridiculous notion. No offense intended, but it is tiresome to just see someone going around doing that I will admit on other threads you have made some good points and I agree with you on quite a few things actually. Just trying to civilly point out maybe that you should calm down on the purism stuff.

no. THIS is tiresome.

explaining the same things over and over and over again to people that have no clue.
Did i ever state molag bal cannot be killed? no. no i didnt.
Did i state we cannot kill molag bal? Yes! because you cannot kill a daedra on nirn. Doesnt work.
And killing a god is also extremeley hard.

the only time we knew of it was lorkahn. Who was *killed* by the other gods.

Actually saying i should *calm down* on my "purism stuff" is quite the insult.
So basically you say i should tone down my dedication and knowledge in favor for people who do not posses said knowledge, beeing wrong in the process?
How does that make any sense?

To get back to my original point, and why you shouldnt use elder scrolls wikia: Did you read the Source?
if you would have read the source (third edition pocket guide) youd know that the quote is actually incorrect. It is in fact a misinterpretation of a statement made in the (biased) pocket guide.

The original quote is the following:

"It took another outside force to reunify Valenwood: the home of the ancient Bosmer, Summerset Isle.

The unified elven kingdom of Valenwood and Summerset, the Aldmeri Dominion, was the most stable power in Tamriel until the coming of Tiber Septim. The new government of Valenwood was called the Thalmor, a congress of Bosmeri chieftains and Altmeri diplomats. While not particularly popular, the Thalmor proved better than the chaos of the previous years, and endured until Tiber Septim's armies swept it away. "
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(February 26th 2013, 10:15 AM)Sordak Wrote: error you have used the elderscrolls wikia

please terminate this thread.

Yes the elder scrolls wiki has been used but what makes this particular bit of information incorrect?

Instead of just stating "wiki used, info wrong!" instead say that, and explain why this particualr bit of info is wrong. It would save you and everyone else alot of bother.

EDIT: just saw your edit dont bother responding
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If I am not mistaken you called saying he can't be killed a cop out essentially and you did sate that he can be killed which as of current knowledge is not correct. Aedra and Daedra are two different breeds with two very different sets of rules. So you misunderstood part of what I posted. I really did mean no offense in fact I even complimented you on other areas. I have nothing for respect for what you know and I am pleased when I see people who enjoy the lore as much as I do. I am displeased when they come on to other peoples threads and blatantly insult them or tell them to end the thread simply because they disagree. Anyways sorry that I upset or offended you and the "purism" was for lack of a better term I just mean clam down some people may not known as much and may not always have the access there are other ways to help them such as teaching them not berating or being condescending towards them. In fact I have even seen you do that on other post on other issues where you helped people learn things in a very beneficial way. I was just trying to point something out to you. I hope you have a nice day man. I am dedicated as well and love the lore especially the religious aspects mainly because of the amount of integrated references to world religions which I also study frequently. I am not saying favor letting uneducated decisions or statements being made but Elder Scrolls in many ways as in the games and the characters them selves is interpretive because of the nature of how it is designed and each faction or races unique views and opinions, therefore I am simply suggesting you do the same. I apologize I do realize that statement about purism was offensive and I should have worded it better. Again have a nice day hopefully next time we discuss it will be in a more agreeable fashion. I have no qualms, but like you I wanted to point out some areas where someone could be mistaken and help them learn.

Also saw the edit just now would it not have been easier to just have posted that instead of being abrasive and say for example "hey guys common mistake but in the actual unbiased pocket guide this is what it says." end statement
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(February 26th 2013, 10:53 AM)MaxxRocker Wrote: If I am not mistaken you called saying he can't be killed a cop out essentially and you did sate that he can be killed which as of current knowledge is not correct. Aedra and Daedra are two different breeds with two very different sets of rules. So you misunderstood part of what I posted. I really did mean no offense in fact I even complimented you on other areas. I have nothing for respect for what you know and I am pleased when I see people who enjoy the lore as much as I do. I am displeased when they come on to other peoples threads and blatantly insult them or tell them to end the thread simply because they disagree. Anyways sorry that I upset or offended you and the "purism" was for lack of a better term I just mean clam down some people may not known as much and may not always have the access there are other ways to help them such as teaching them not berating or being condescending towards them. In fact I have even seen you do that on other post on other issues where you helped people learn things in a very beneficial way. I was just trying to point something out to you. I hope you have a nice day man. I am dedicated as well and love the lore especially the religious aspects mainly because of the amount of integrated references to world religions which I also study frequently. I am not saying favor letting uneducated decisions or statements being made but Elder Scrolls in many ways as in the games and the characters them selves is interpretive because of the nature of how it is designed and each faction or races unique views and opinions, therefore I am simply suggesting you do the same. I apologize I do realize that statement about purism was offensive and I should have worded it better. Again have a nice day hopefully next time we discuss it will be in a more agreeable fashion. I have no qualms, but like you I wanted to point out some areas where someone could be mistaken and help them learn.

Also saw the edit just now would it not have been easier to just have posted that instead of being abrasive and say for example "hey guys common mistake but in the actual unbiased pocket guide this is what it says." end statement


oh i can see that very well. but quite frankly i do not have patience with people that quite frankly do not *want* to know anything about the lore, yet discuss it.
I do not have any intention of wasting time on somebody that doesnt want to know anything.

and this is the exact reason why i get angry over the usage of teswikia.
Because ive been saying "TES WIKI is wrong, forgert about it" for so long. But it still keeps getting brought up. its not like i got no reaosn for it.
and i dont see why i would always have to do the double checking to point out its just wrong.

i posted the actual quote right there.
There is a little [2] just next to the paragraph. So OP id say next time click that before you make a damn thread about it. Chances are it is, like in this case, just some wiki guy having no clue what hes talking about.
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(February 26th 2013, 10:53 AM)MaxxRocker Wrote: Don't eat me Sordak, don't eat me!

Don't worry about it man! He does that to all that dare say something related to lore. And although he's trollin', he's generally right.
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haha Yes I am a sniveling worm.... *wimpers* No in all seriousness I just prefer not to waste anyones time with confrontation and also I really was trying not to offend because on other post I agreed with him so yep. lol


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Hey guys, let's pretend we still don't know who wins the alliance war in ESO so we can all continue to be friends.
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Elder Scrolls wikia and lore, that's like children attempting to tell horror stories.

If this thread continues forward, I can assure you that wikipedia will state that Nehemia The Undefeated took the throne for Ebonheart Pact and ruled till' the days of the Tiber Septim.


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