An-Xileel - an Argonian politcal faction

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/An-Xileel

The An-Xileel is an Argonian political faction. Very little is known about them, other than the fact that they rebuffed Mehrunes Dagon's invasion of Black Marsh during the Oblivion Crisis and were largely responsible for the Argonian invasion, and subsequent occupation, of Morrowind. They are presumed to be based in Black Marsh, and are most likely comprised entirely of Argonians.

I am interested in developing aspects of this faction within The Ebonheart Pact. I rarely developed any Argonian characters in the original rpg Morrowind but plan to concentrate on this race in the mmorpg version.

I may also consider setting up a "guild" under the name of An-Xileel if one does not already exist but would like your feelings on this. Should this be a pan group open to all Argonians or a specific sub group i.e. guild for RP purposes?

An-Xileel first appear in history after the defeat of Dagoth Ur at Red Mountain. There's really nothing to suggest they existed 800+ years before that time.

I have made the voting options a little divisive on purpose. Perhaps to articulate this better I could have asked if there should be a guild set up to represent the An-Xileel (which would be open to all the Pact members sympathetic to its aims) or should there simply be this group as part of the game play without a distinctive player involvement?

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I appreciate the time line and there for see this as an opportunity to invoke and be involved in creating its history leading up to the recognised dates in The Elder Scrolls history.

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(December 6th 2012, 09:18 AM)Cools-His-Hands Wrote: An-Xileel first appear in history after the defeat of Dagoth Ur at Red Mountain. There's really nothing to suggest they existed 800+ years before that time.

I appreciate the time line and there for see this as an opportunity to invoke and be involved in creating its history leading up to the recognised dates in The Elder Scrolls history.

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"Martin and the Empire didn't beat [Dagon] in Black Marsh, the An-Xileel did. When the gates opened, Argonians poured into Oblivion with such fury and might, Dagon's lieutenants had to close them."
―Mere-Glim[src]

nothing is known of them prior to this in main because the Argonians are so secretive. thus a license to get creative with its origins is available.

Having given this more thought and read other threads it has occurred to me that the idea of a "guild" in the manner of typical mmorpg is not a particularly good idea because there are already 3 factions and also guilds, along with religious/political/racial groups, in the game already so setting up "groups" may be counter productive to the aims of the faction.

i.e. a guild may have members from various factions allowing them to sabotage pvp or work with different agendas to that of winning the throne.

It also makes me think that should a Nord wish to sit on the throne on behalf the Ebonheart Pact will this sit well with Argonians? Given the other option - maybe!

as mentioned before, its highly unlikeley that the an-xileel are actually around at this point. We dont know how the argonians are governed this time, its not a monarchy (wich it was at some point prior to oblivion, as stated by the two shadowscales in the dark brotherhood) according to the Q&A but i dont think the an xileel will be all too much present.

It there for sounds like the name is there for up for grabs as a Guild name but I have my reservations about guilds in the manner of GW at least as previously mentioned. With guilds e.g. assassins, warriors, magician, etc as part of the game mechanic along with factions I can't see the benefits of joining or having a player guild so far.

i guess its up for grabs. but if you use it, it wont be lore apropriate.

I am hoping to join The Morag Tong and later inseminate the name into the game lore as the game develops if only in an RP context. If it has no history I will take the initiative.

I think the game will be aiming for a rating of Teen, or at most Mature. So I don't think you'll be able to do that with the name! ;)

Wrong thread to reply on or was it something I said? On that note does that mean the strip joints won't be in the online version?

Well, it's a an archaic (and icky) way of putting it, but I think 'inseminate' totally fits in this regard, it's TES after all. And I'm confident there'll be strip joints, just no nude bars. SWTOR got a teen rating and Twi'lek dancers.

And if you want to pick the name, go for it. You probably can squeeze it somehow into the lore, if you manage to come up with a plausible reason why there's no record of the An-Xileel existing in this time and why it takes another 800 years for them to make a reappearance. Should you wish to be lore compliant in the first place, of course. There's no rule that you have to.

I would love to see an all argonian guild, but at the same time I agree with others in this thread that it was extremely unlikely that the An'Xileel even exist at this point in time. I do personally love a bit of RP and hope to be able to raid and do end game pve progression and rp, but we'll see how things go.

Guilds - A guild is an association of artisans who control the practice of their craft in a particular town. It gives the flavour of what Elder Scrolls guilds were like e.g. wizards, fighter, thieves, etc. Then there were also collective groups based along political, religious and cultural/racial groupings for example The Morag Tong. In Morrowind it was possible to be a member of many groups as long as thier interests did not conflict and it was lore appropriate. I guess the phraseology "guild" could be used for these collectives but I hope TESO come up with a better conceptualization.

That said I agree with you Voren as all Argonian "collective" will not be limited in the same way the Nord only groups will be. Argonians are capable with magica, make excellent bandits/assassins, and good warriors too. I wonder if the race will keep its underwater breathing and immunity to diseases and poisons? Certainly the Aztec feel/design sounds good.