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Auri-El vs. Akatosh


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We all know how big of a clusterfuck TES lore can be, with all of the Aedra and the Daedra and the Dawn Era, etc., etc.

I was wondering: are Akatosh and Auri-El truly the same entity, as is commonly said?

Akatosh is the God of Time and has the form of a dragon (or is, at least, depicted that way). According to the general TES creation myth, he more-or-less threw himself into Mundus. He is also the father of the dov (dragons).

Auri-El, on the other hand, is the Aldmeri God of the Sun and is depicted as a humanoid. He shot the Heart of Lorkahn into the sea, creating Vvardenfell and the Red Mountain. IIRC, he also fought alongside the Elves at some point and ascended into Aetherius or something like that. He is the soul of Anui-El, who is the soul of Anu the Everything.

In Dawnguard, Knight-Paladin Gelebor says they are the same.

I once read that they used to be one entity, but were separated. They seem to be completely different to me, but....


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They are the same and not.
Both are part of the Oversoul known as Aka-Tusk

Both are Aspects of that oversoul, but are inhertly different not only in personality but also in what they do (one beeing a sun god, the other the time Dragon)

Think of it this way: Why is Mehrunes Dagon also Magnus? And why is he a little kitten in Khajiit mythology?
Gods dont work the way people do.
They can have many aspects that might be the same.
But are, from a mortal point of view, completeley distinct. Even acknowledging one another (akatosh and the world eater, Shor son of Shor)
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That actually makes a lot of sense. So, each individual deity is a sort of aspect of a larger sort of "soul" or "force"? and the deities can in turn have aspects of their own (Alduin, firstborn of Akatosh; Auri-El, soul of Anui-El, soul of Anu the Everything)?


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A simple way to imagine it in my mind is Hircine in Bloodmoon..

Its not really the same as such, but its a way of looking at it.


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oh my god Mehrunes Dagon is a little kitty in Khajiit lore??
THATS SO CUTE I WANT ONE.


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(March 26th 2013, 10:30 PM)Velaskae Wrote: oh my god Mehrunes Dagon is a little kitty in Khajiit lore??
THATS SO CUTE I WANT ONE.
Then he'll scrabble you and he'll leave a scar and starting ruling Elsweyr
And enslave the world.. But on the other hand he indeed does sound cute and awesome.


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(March 27th 2013, 01:38 AM)Ulfgar the Fearless Wrote:
(March 26th 2013, 10:30 PM)Velaskae Wrote: oh my god Mehrunes Dagon is a little kitty in Khajiit lore??
THATS SO CUTE I WANT ONE.
Then he'll scrabble you and he'll leave a scar and starting ruling Elsweyr
And enslave the world.. But on the other hand he indeed does sound cute and awesome.

I totally pictured a chibi mehrunes dagon with cat ears


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(March 27th 2013, 04:18 AM)Velaskae Wrote:
(March 27th 2013, 01:38 AM)Ulfgar the Fearless Wrote:
(March 26th 2013, 10:30 PM)Velaskae Wrote: oh my god Mehrunes Dagon is a little kitty in Khajiit lore??
THATS SO CUTE I WANT ONE.
Then he'll scrabble you and he'll leave a scar and starting ruling Elsweyr
And enslave the world.. But on the other hand he indeed does sound cute and awesome.

I totally pictured a chibi mehrunes dagon with cat ears
LOL.


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hmmm, I thought only aedra were effected by multiple aspects dependent on culture. Didn't it go something like aedra are effected by mortal perspective due to their connection to mundus and the daedra being separate can appear how every they so please.
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That might be true. I read somewhere that St. Alessia basically "made up" Akatosh and the other seven Divines (or most of them).
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she didnt *make them up*

She compiled them out of common themes in two different pantheons (The ayleyd and the nordic one)
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I know, but that's essentially making them up.


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not realy.
interpreting is a better word wouldnt you agree?

Actually i just noticed a mistake there.

It was the Aldmeri Pantheon, NOT the aylied one, the aylieds were daedra worshippers.
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I thought the Ayleids worshipped a mix of the Aedra and Daedra?
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(March 29th 2013, 02:45 PM)Arkael Wrote: I thought the Ayleids worshipped a mix of the Aedra and Daedra?

could be. But i doubt perrif would have taken daedra worship into account.
mixed or not.
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