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Battle Plan (Map) - Ebonheart Pact


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The Ebonheart Pacts battle plan


(Original battle plan idea from @"Quanton Biscuit")
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This how I think shit will go down. Feel free to share your own ideas on this thread!

Key:
- Red: The Ebonheart Pact
- Blue: The Daggerfall Covenant
- Yellow: The Aldmeri Dominion
- Green: Unknown (anything can happen)
- "|-----|": Defensive line
- "----->": Attacking force


Cities:

- Bruma:(++) I think it is quite obvious that Bruma will be controlled by the Ebonheart Pact for a vast majority of the time. It is good place to attack from. It's close to Skyrim, it is connected by a road that goes up north, over the Jerall Mountains (= fast acces). It will be the main place from where the Ebonheart Pact will attack the Covenant and march down south towards the Imperial City.

- Cheydinhal: (++) The Dunmeri city will also be controlled by the Ebonheart Pact right off bat. It will be hard for the opposing factions to capture it since it's close to Morrowind and Skyrim. If all goes wrong for the Pact, Cheydinhal will be it's retreat from where they can retaliate or have their last stand. The city will also serve as the place where the Pact will attack the South-West.

- Chorrol: (++) The Daggerfall Covenant will hold the capital of the Colovian Highlands from the start. The Black Road connects the Covenants territory and Cyrodiil. Through that mountain pass the majority of the Covenants forces will come through to fight in Cyrodiil. Because of that Chorrol will serve as a headquarter city. From there the Covenant are best of to attack the South-West. Counties such as Skingrad and Kvatch. The Covenant will have to do a lot of defending on the eastern front of Chorrol. Since the Pact directest and most logical city to attack next (apart from Leyawiin but we'll get to that later) is Chorrol! A majority of the Ebonheart Pacts forces will aim to capture Chorrol, cause if they do so they control the north entirely. Also, the main gate to the Imperial City is on the west coast of the island. Chorrol is situated closest to the western, and only bridge. Therefore Chorrol will be a main highlight to capture for the Pact. The Covenant won't be able to much else than defending on the eastern front of county Chorrol. They're best off to attack the south.

- Anvil: Anything can happen to Anvil. It is close to Rihad in Hammerfell. Which is an advantage for the Covenant. Though it's even closer to Valenwoods border. You could say that Anvil has a 50-50 situation going on. Whoever controls Kvatch also influences who controls Anvil. At the start of the campaign the Covenant and the Dominion will have to choose for which one they wanna go. As you can see, Anvils main gate is facing towards Hammerfell and Kvatchs main gate is faced towards Valenwood. To me Kvatch seems to be more of a logical decision for the Dominion which leaves Anvil for the Covenant.

- Kvatch: (+/-) I think Kvatch will be held by the Dominion most of the time. Though, should the Covenant succeed in capturing Anvil... They'll put a lot more pressure on it and should that happen it becomes uncertain whether the Dominion will hold Kvatch for very long.

- Skingrad: (+) Skingrad will be a blood bath, though at the end of the day the Dominion will hold the city. It is after all very close to Arenthia in Valenwood.

- Bravil: (++) This city will be held by the Dominion and will be the least likely to be captured. Atleast, it should be so. The Dominion will attack the Ebonheart Pact pre-dominanently from the city of Bravil. The Pact has to be careful, for they can not afford the Dominion to take over the Nibenay Basin. The Pact will also direct attacks towards northern county Bravil.

- Leyawiin: On the map I gave the Dominion the benefit of the doubt when it came to Leyawiin. However, once again... Anything can happen to Leyawiin. The Aldmeris won't be likely to send a whole lot of troops to a city so far away from the Imperial City. From a lore perspective the Argonians will most likely either overrun the Khajiits placed in Leyawiin or wage a very tough guerilla warfare against them, in which the Dominion will loose in the end. When the Pact holds Leyawiin it could direct its attack up north, towards Bravil. In an attempt to chop off the head of the Aldmeri army.

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Fellow Ebonheart Pacters, what do we need to do in order to win this war?
Do you have any comments or ideas to share? What will happen to the other parts of Cyrodiil? Post down below!
This post was last modified: August 21st 2013, 12:00 PM by Beor of Skyrim


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By the way, considering the talk about how EP is overpopulated ... Isn't it obvious cause Pact has larger area to hold and wider front.


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What's obvious?
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That they will have more player's than other factions.... yes, yes i know its not linked to that but just saying.


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Umm I'm sure Skingrad will be ours or at least put it as contested. But good job for an EP'er, its not your stereotypical EP'er 'battle plan' where the plan is to 'part your head with my axe with no thought on how I shall accomplish the feat'. Promising that we have people interested in tactics on the other side. But there's one fatal flaw, there is set starting area's which haven't been taken into account. You will not be able to enter all along the border but only in a starting area. So I doubt this will have any relevance what so ever to the success of your nation.
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i found it slightly unfair (going to try not bitch about it though) that the EP seem to have easy access to the North and East of Cyrodil, while the AD and DC are split between the south and West. not to mention that the EP has the largest numbers between the 3. It puts the EP at a large advantage as they will have a larger region in which to gain resources in fighting for control of the imperial city. Also disagree with how you believe city control will be, I believe Anvil and Kvatch will definitely be DC territory while Chorrol and Skingrad will be contested largely, but held mainly by the DC. although this line of thought will be completely smashed if the DC have boats that will take them from Valenwood to Anvil and the coast near Kvatch and Skingrad.
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(August 21st 2013, 12:51 PM)Cairanmac1 Wrote: i found it slightly unfair (going to try not bitch about it though) that the EP seem to have easy access to the North and East of Cyrodil, while the AD and DC are split between the south and West. not to mention that the EP has the largest numbers between the 3. It puts the EP at a large advantage as they will have a larger region in which to gain resources in fighting for control of the imperial city. Also disagree with how you believe city control will be, I believe Anvil and Kvatch will definitely be DC territory while Chorrol and Skingrad will be contested largely, but held mainly by the DC. although this line of thought will be completely smashed if the DC have boats that will take them from Valenwood to Anvil and the coast near Kvatch and Skingrad.

Its also hard for EP to defend such a wide range of area. But considering that they might have most players, its challenging to other factions.

But if they in the end doesn't have most players, it will be hard .... Cause its easier to hold smaller area.


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Let's be real about a few things here, first of all... Let's face it: The Ebonheart Pact is gonna be the biggest faction of them all.

Secondly, you can't say that the whole South-Western area would most definently be under Covenant control. First off they have the least amount of soldiers and secondly it's really hard to maintain conquered cities in such a contested area. The Dominion has the easiest acces to the South-West and won't allow the DC to just take it all over and hold it forever. On the whole the South-West is an unstable region to rule over. No one can say for absolute certain that either the AD or DC will be dominant there throughout the years.

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Hate to screw up the plans or anything but from what I've seen and heard, these won't be the cities in Cyrodiil (At launch anyway)

These cities will be in Cyrodiil at launch:
-Imperial City
-Cheydinhal
-Bruma
-Chorrol
-Skingrad
-Cropsford
-Hackdirt

The latter two were small settlements in Oblivion and I added them to the map below. Please excuse my paint skills.

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I think these locations are a lot better as the locations are all (roughly) equally close to the Imperial City and the surrounding factions. Of course this could be different when the game is actually released.

Ebonheart Pact - Cheydinhal
Daggerfall Covenent - Chorrol
Aldmeri Dominion - Skingrad

Bruma could be taken over by either the DC or EP.
Hackdirt could be taken over by either the DC or AD.
Cropsford could be taken over by either the EP or AD.
(At least at the start)
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And where did you get that from...?


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(August 21st 2013, 01:58 PM)Beor of Skyrim Wrote: Let's be real about a few things here, first of all... Let's face it: The Ebonheart Pact is gonna be the biggest faction of them all.

Secondly, you can't say that the whole South-Western area would most definently be under Covenant control. First off they have the least amount of soldiers and secondly it's really hard to maintain conquered cities in such a contested area. The Dominion has the easiest acces to the South-West and won't allow the DC to just take it all over and hold it forever. On the whole the South-West is an unstable region to rule over. No one can say for absolute certain that either the AD or DC will be dominant there throughout the years.

@"Thomas Bérard" Soon pretty much all of Tamriel will be playable and therefore I created a map for the long run.

Your not future proofing yourself at all. For one you haven't taken any note of landscape and two that would be so unfair. I beleive the DC shall hold the South West and Skingrad at times, I made a map but its too big but I believe there to be two starting locations for each faction and if the theme is correct each side has equal amounts of territory. Your map sorry to break it to you was utter shit. Nice initiative but I could count a bucket of piss a better plan than the one you proposed.


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Look kid, I don't care whether you are 13 or not but on this forum you gotta be mature. We don't appreciate that kind of talk here.


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(August 21st 2013, 12:04 PM)Arilyn Wrote: That they will have more player's than other factions.... yes, yes i know its not linked to that but just saying.

I dont think the EP will outnumber the other factions since there are several alliance war campaigns going on. I thought I read somewhere that every war will be like 1000 vs 1000 vs 1000.
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(August 21st 2013, 02:24 PM)Beor of Skyrim Wrote: @"Thomas Bérard"

Look kid, I don't care whether you are 13 or not but on this forum you gotta be mature. We don't appreciate that kind of talk here.

Sorry I was a bit annoyed, well actually quite a bit, on how your battle plan obviously didn't take into account anything other than the map. Do you not see that would be utterly impossible, I would update it and look at roads entering the country and as you can see there is two logical places with roads leading to them for AD to enter, two for EP and one with a road for DC and Anvil would be a good location for the second. This gives everyone equal land and puts everyone in a decent position. The fact that we can enter anywhere won't be added even if every location is added. From the plans I drew up each faction, taking into account their strengths and weaknesses, can have a go at taking the IC. I would reassess your map if I were you.


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(August 21st 2013, 12:43 PM)Thomas Bérard Wrote: Umm I'm sure Skingrad will be ours or at least put it as contested. But good job for an EP'er, its not your stereotypical EP'er 'battle plan' where the plan is to 'part your head with my axe with no thought on how I shall accomplish the feat'. Promising that we have people interested in tactics on the other side...

You, sir, are coming off as exceedingly arrogant wherever I come across you. You seem to insist that the Pact is full of trash talking children but time and time again the only blind and babbling idiot I see is you. In fact, this is one of the few times you've ever followed up your characterstic nay saying with a sliver of relevant, thoughtful input. It's become the case now it seems that the Covenant, with their bragging about their 'tactics' - all of which are theoretical and completely non-sensical in the context of a fantastical MMO, by the way - have started attracting the majority of the younger players.

I don't tend to rant and pull discussions off-topic but at this point you're just asking for it.

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As far as the map goes, I think it's a fair representation of how it will likely turn out. Assuming the map is the same on launch day, the North will have to be secured as soon as possible. We may have to sacrifice cities in order to do so but securing the North will be paramount to the capture of the Imperial City. Assuming Skingrad turns into the bloodbath it looks set to be we should be able to secure the North with little resistance from the Covenant, sacrificing at most only one city to the Dominion in the South East before holding them there. From this point we look set to push hard into the Imperial City sparing only those few required to keep the Dominion at bay from the assault.

If the map is changed on release date, however, things become a lot less complicated. If all factions start with an equal amount of cities at an equal and set distance from their territory, it'll become a race as opposed to a strategic battle.


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