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Bosmer love and lore friendly approach.


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To quote from the wiki:
The Bosmer allegedly made the Pact with Y'ffre, the Forest Deity. The Bosmer are religiously carnivorous and cannibalistic as a result of the Green Pact, a central portion of the Bosmer faith. The Green Pact is never explicitly shown, but in its simplest form, it sets these rules down: Bosmer may only consume meat-based products and are forbidden to harm any plant for their own betterment. As a result of these stipulations, Bosmer are dependent on either stone or imported timber for construction purposes.
The Green Pact has also heavily impacted Bosmeri cuisine, combat, and weaponry. They have developed methods of fermenting meat and milk to develop powerful alcoholic beverages and weapons such as bows are often made of treated and shaped bones. Most notable about Bosmeri combat is their stipulation that a combatant must consume an enemy's corpse within 3 days of killing them. Their families are allowed to help eat the kill. This has led to changes in approaches to combat, such as fasting and planning family feasts following a battle. They also cannot smoke anything of a vegetable nature. Bone pipes are common, however, and are filled with caterpillars or tree grubs.


This is why a love the Bosmer so much. I find they're way of life very intriguing. Although it would be next to impossible to lead a Bosmer lifestyle in a game that will evidently have lots and lots of killing. I would like to know about the amount of people who are going to actively try to avoid breaking Bosmer lore when they can.

I myself will be not allowing myself the use of armour unless it is material friendly, either made with leather, wool, silk or bone. On the same premise I will be using bone weapons. Even though this segment doesn't state it I believe the Bosmer are not aloud to use metal either. (I may be confusing them with DnD druids though, any correction is welcome).

Any food that I have available I hope to be able to limit it to purely meat and fish. Though if the best food buffs end up being bread and cabbage soup then I will have to kill my own immersion a little.

So in general my efforts to respecting the Bosmer lore is based on it's aesthetics. Is anyone else doing something similar?
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Respect to you if you can play your character the true bosmer way.

Seen from a more practical view, it is impossible to not use any metal gear especially early on when its the only items you have access to.
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(January 14th 2014, 04:00 AM)bwadark Wrote: Even though this segment doesn't state it I believe the Bosmer are not aloud to use metal either. (I may be confusing them with DnD druids though, any correction is welcome).

There is nothing against the use of metal in the Green Pact, though the lack of metal may be more of a logistical problem. Mining may be harder to do because of the Green Pact because they must ensure that the vegetation of Valenwood isn't harmed, and importing metals are probably more expensive than wood which could work to limit the use of metal. Plus since they are carnivores, leather and bone materials would be much more common and the need to stay agile in the forest would make cumbersome metals less attractive. I'm sure they still produce metal though mainly for blades, tools, arrow tips, and other miscellaneous things.

So not wearing metal armor and such would probably be better suited for roleplay that holds very tightly to the lore, but metal working itself is not banned and you could even become a blacksmith and still follow the established lore.


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Well in points when I can't help it. I have to pick no shoes or metal shoes. I pick shoes. But as soon as the options become more open with the crafting and choice of items is when I will make an effort.
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you know about the crafting styles don't you? You can craft anything in the style of a certain race, so you can just craft all your equipment in the bosmer way and you'll be lore friendly. Same goes for all the races.


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As long as you're not messing with the vegetation in Valenwood, you can do whatever you like. You can use wood from the Summerset Isles or Elsewyr, eat fruits and veggies from there, and justify anything you like so long as you indicate that the materials came from somewhere other than Valenwood (as I understand it).

The Meat Mandate was designed to prevent those Bosmer living in Valendwood from harming the plant life therein, and doesn't apply to Bosmer living elsewhere, or those who travel elsewhere (as a player character would).


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Indeed it wouldn't apply though like a vegetarian. The Bosmer wouldn't be able to just eat vegetables after only ever having meat. It would be a disaster to their digestive system. Not only that but if you're born and raised with a belief system such as the green pact that belief and lifestyle wouldn't change because you leave Valenwood. Yes, I agree it doesn't apply but a Bosmer wouldn't change his or her life style because their in a different enviroment, imo.
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Perhaps. People regularly go back and forth between omnivore, herbivore, vegan, and other diet changes, with little more than some temporary GI disruption. And people altering the belief system(s) they grew up with happens often enough IRL, and the ES games are replete with examples of NPCs (and, indeed, the Hero) that are often exceptions to the norms of their racial cultures.

Regardless, I do respect your intentions here with such a limiting style to stay true to lore, and I wish you the best of luck with it.


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This is certainly true enough. Though when it comes to the tes games having characters outside the norm, I see that as a continuity error.

Though this is mainly a challenge for myself and it will be extremely interesting. It will be nice to finally see Valenwood and it will be very interesting to see how the Bosmer NPCs are there.
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