Cross faction armor sharing?

I hope someone can put my fears to rest. I believe I read somewhere that any race can acquire and use any other races armor/weapons...? I personally don't want to see other factions dawning my armor look and vice versa. Make all three factions gear equal but still separate. The unique look and feel of a racial culture is usually reflected in their clothing and its kind of like a guild tabard, it's private, it's unique, and it's all you and your guildies. Makes you proud running through a battleground wearing your distinctive armor. Just hoping that while I know any class can wear any armor I hope it's their faction's getup and not another's. thanks

(January 20th 2013, 10:34 PM)AltmerianAlgorithm Wrote:
I hope someone can put my fears to rest. I believe I read somewhere that any race can acquire and use any other races armor/weapons...?

This is correct, but this is only referring to the actual material that each piece of armor is made out of.

For example, all three factions will be able to wear Elven armor, but they will most likely be designed to represent each of the 3 factions, and won't look anything similar to each other.

In this way, every race has access to every armor type, but with their own personal style that makes it graphically unique to their alliance.

I was always a little disappointed with the variety of gear to choose from in the console series. Iron, Steel, Dwarven, Glass, Ebony, Elven etc. I would like to see proper noun gear.

What I want: Chestguard of Agony
What I don't want: Elven Chestguard of Agility

(January 20th 2013, 10:40 PM)Terminus Zaire Wrote:

(January 20th 2013, 10:34 PM)AltmerianAlgorithm Wrote:
I hope someone can put my fears to rest. I believe I read somewhere that any race can acquire and use any other races armor/weapons...?

This is correct, but this is only referring to the actual material that each piece of armor is made out of.

For example, all three factions will be able to wear Elven armor, but they will most likely be designed to represent each of the 3 factions, and won't look anything similar to each other.

In this way, every race has access to every armor type, but with their own personal style that makes it graphically unique to their alliance.

thats actually wrong.
Only elves will wear elven armor to start with.

The thing is. the gear wont be locked into the materials as much as it is in Skyrim.
The more important factor is the style.

The AD will find alot of elven armor (of any materiel) while the DC will find alot orcish armor.
In Skyrim youll get horned helmets and such, in morrowind youll see indoril style armor.

You can get the armors of other factions tho. Either by crafting or finding them but they will be very rare and the crafting skill is something you have to achieve first before you can make that.
So the factions will stand out, at least initialy.

on a different note: realy? I thought the gear in TES makes alot of sense in the way its presented. Im actually not too much a fan of the standart RPG equipment generation.

Yeah, Orcish armor! :-D

Faction-based armor is a pretty universally hated system in SWTOR.

I'd also really hate to be stuck unable to explore my Breton's interest in Khajiit culture. Self-expression is a big deal in MMOs.

(January 21st 2013, 12:25 AM)tesozone Wrote: I was always a little disappointed with the variety of gear to choose from in the console series. Iron, Steel, Dwarven, Glass, Ebony, Elven etc. I would like to see proper noun gear.

What I want: Chestguard of Agony
What I don't want: Elven Chestguard of Agility

Well thats the way Elder Scrolls games have done it in the past except you used Dwarven and that should read Dwemer. And seeing as we don't really know which faction the players were in the video it is pretty difficult to tell exactly what your factions armor will look like.

Oh and I would love to "share" armor as in being able to loot the corpse of all the enemies I kill in Cyrodiil ...

not gonna happen.
youll prolly get random drops from enemy soldiers. but you wont loot their inventory. this also has been discussed to death already.

(January 21st 2013, 08:52 AM)Sordak Wrote: not gonna happen.
youll prolly get random drops from enemy soldiers. but you wont loot their inventory. this also has been discussed to death already.

The only reason I added the "loot the corpse" part was to say, this is how it should be, however I know it won't be like that because they are making everything far more "carebear" then that...

(January 21st 2013, 09:02 AM)Elember Wrote:

(January 21st 2013, 08:52 AM)Sordak Wrote: not gonna happen.
youll prolly get random drops from enemy soldiers. but you wont loot their inventory. this also has been discussed to death already.

The only reason I added the "loot the corpse" part was to say, this is how it should be, however I know it won't be like that because they are making everything far more "carebear" then that...

oh look the old carebear argument.
Its nonsensical realy. Im usually all for a hardcore expirience. but full lootable corpses just discourages risky tactics. wich is never a good thing....

You'd get too much bounty that way lol

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Being an elder scrolls game, all armors should be available to all players.

hmm sharing your porn collection is a must, sharing armor not necessary. There should be distinct looks of certain factions and at least in the videos so far, we have seen that. I have noticed distinct nord, dunmer and breton gear sets, plus a glimpse of imperial armor that should logically be easily obtainable via pvp

(January 21st 2013, 01:24 AM)Sordak Wrote: thats actually wrong.
Only elves will wear elven armor to start with.

The thing is. the gear wont be locked into the materials as much as it is in Skyrim.
The more important factor is the style.

This is what I was trying to explain....

Every faction will have access to every type of armor, because having Orcs only use Orcish armor and Elves use only Elvish armor is fundamentally flawed due to the fact that some metals are more powerful than others.

Therefore, each race will have access to the base metals that is used to create each armor, and will be able to use it to create armors that have graphical characteristics that each piece possesses.


There is actually a small chance that Elves will only be able to use Moonstone and Orcs can only use Orichalcum; however, there will be "tiers" in which armor is rated, to ensure that the quality of armor created is based on the skill of the crafter rather than the metal or material type itself.


Also... nobody is ever outright "wrong" in their answers, because we currently don't have enough information to fully speculate on the armor systems yet. The purpose of these discussions is to, CONSTRUCTIVELY, build off of the information that other members of the community provide to attempt to piece together how the gameplay of TESO will function.

(January 21st 2013, 11:54 AM)Terminus Zaire Wrote:

(January 21st 2013, 01:24 AM)Sordak Wrote: thats actually wrong.
Only elves will wear elven armor to start with.

The thing is. the gear wont be locked into the materials as much as it is in Skyrim.
The more important factor is the style.

This is what I was trying to explain....

Every faction will have access to every type of armor, because having Orcs only use Orcish armor and Elves use only Elvish armor is fundamentally flawed due to the fact that some metals are more powerful than others.

Therefore, each race will have access to the base metals that is used to create each armor, and will be able to use it to create armors that have graphical characteristics that each piece possesses.


There is actually a small chance that Elves will only be able to use Moonstone and Orcs can only use Orichalcum; however, there will be "tiers" in which armor is rated, to ensure that the quality of armor created is based on the skill of the crafter rather than the metal or material type itself.


Also... nobody is ever outright "wrong" in their answers, because we currently don't have enough information to fully speculate on the armor systems yet. The purpose of these discussions is to, CONSTRUCTIVELY, build off of the information that other members of the community provide to attempt to piece together how the gameplay of TESO will function.

you are still wrong.
And i will not censor myself because of the ignorance of others. Wrong is a word that discribes when someones statement is not correct.
If you take offense in that i quite frankly do not give a single fuck.

Orcish and Elven are *materials* in skyrim. they aint in TESO. "Orcish" is a type of crafting. not a material. And materials probably wont work like they do in Skyrim. rather going for a more traditional system. It kind of makes sense not to have such a linear progression of material based gear.

Orcish in this case is Orcish smithing. It can be Iron Orcish armor, it can be steel Orcish armor, it can be just orcish armor of greater pounding who knows.
But all we know is that the Armors are based on the provinces they are in. So no there wont be any "nordic orc armor" that doesnt work that way.
because the Materials wont be the same as they are in skyrim.

There also wont be Nordic Elven armor. and there certainly wont be Elven stahlhrim armor. I hope you get where im going with this.

Certainly all for being able to wear whatever you want.

If you slit an enemy soldier's throat, and fancy their armor... what's to stop you from wearing it? Realistically, I'd say you should be able to wear whatever you like.

Again, I hope the game is more simulation than arcade.