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Alright... I am an old fan of TES, but totally new to MMOs (this is my first one) and, boy, am I lost....
I am quite happy to do my own thing all on my own, the way I am used to, but have no idea how to interact with other players. Of course I do realise this is a massive limitation in this kind of game.

Two main things I don't quite understand are how the whole trading system works and the role of guilds. I mean, can I just sell my stuff (or buy stuff from) to normal NPCs who own stores, or can I only trade with other players? I did try to trade with some of them, but unsuccessfully...

Also, as for the guilds, once I join them am I stuck into only doing what the guild is doing? In other words, what are the constraints and benefits of joining one? Will I still be able to do quests on my own?

I am sure these all sound like silly question to the average MMOer out there but, believe me, for someone who's never played the genre this is all soooo overwhelming.

So yeah, thanks in advance everyone for helping.

P.S. I have been searching for a comprehensive online guide to the game, but I have only found fairly superficial stuff... Do you know of any good ones?
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Two main things I don't quite understand are how the whole trading system works and the role of guilds. I mean, can I just sell my stuff (or buy stuff from) to normal NPCs who own stores, or can I only trade with other players? I did try to trade with some of them, but unsuccessfully...

Walking up to people to invite to trade usually is not so great. Using local chat is good if you want to trade the real goodies like racial motifs. But just shouting out that you've got balrog's blessed buttsword for 500 gold is fruitless or time consuming.

Also, as for the guilds, once I join them am I stuck into only doing what the guild is doing?

No. Some guilds have requirements that you do stuff with them x hours per week. Most guilds do not. for a good rundown on guilds halloweenweed wrote an article that is here on tesof

In other words, what are the constraints and benefits of joining one? Will I still be able to do quests on my own?

For me the main benefit is trading. Guild stores allow you to sell your loot to other guild members for much better prices than npc merchants. You can buy other guild members stuff too, again at better prices than you get from npc merchants.
The guild bank is where members put stuff to give away to other members. Free stuff! But don't abuse it and make sure to give back.

I am sure these all sound like silly question to the average MMOer out there but, believe me, for someone who's never played the genre this is all soooo overwhelming.

This is my first mmo too but I've been playing a lot and having fun mostly on my own and I highly recommend doing everything

So yeah, thanks in advance everyone for helping.

If you have any questions or need any kind of help send me a private message.


P.S. I have been searching for a comprehensive online guide to the game, but I have only found fairly superficial stuff... Do you know of any good ones?

There are great resources like tamriel foundry, eso life, and others but there is no one stop shop for how to do everything in eso. I haven't found anything like that.

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In TESO you can join up to 5 different guilds, which makes that people usually don't really mind about them.

There are some guilds, which would like you to play with its members, go to teamspeak, or guild forum, participate in activities, etc. But I guess these are pretty rare.
On the other hands, the other extend are trading guilds, where you only join to trade your stuff, and so that your message, like "Want to sell (WTS) 50 Ironhides /w me" will be seen by a maximum of people.

I personally joined one of the 1st type, and 2 of the second one. With my real guild, I go to teamspeak, go doing AvA with them, dungeon, etc. Belonging to a guild makes it easy to organise group events, and you get to know, talk to others players and thus share your experience. I can only recommand it to you. Then you always play with the same persons, and that's cool, that's why I call it "real" guild.

Trade guilds are here to trade your stuff, so it's good to have one or two (preferentially with a lot of people in it).

Of course, you can still play together, or join guilds that don't really care if you participate or not. But I find that it's a pity to miss this "community" side. So pick your guild well.

To trade you can always sell stuff to NPCs. But some goods are useful to players, and therefore you will probably get more money by selling them to players than to NPC (and if you don't, just sell it to the NPC, this guy will always buy your s**t :p)
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Hey,

Thank you both for helping!!

So, yesterday I was invited to join two trade guilds, and I accepted... now tho I am having a technical problem... how do I actually trade stuff with the guild's members? I was going through the tabs andcould not see anything that looked like the right tab...
Also, I noticed NPC vendors have ridiculously high prices for their merchandise, but will pay me a misery for my stuff. Is this gonna change? I was wondering if it is similar to Skyrim where the price depends on how high your trading skill is (tho I don't think there is a trading skill in ESO).

Other question... what's the difference between groups and guilds? And how can I invite anyone to start either... especially to do dungeones, I noticed some of them are far too hard to do on your own, so I guess I'd have to team up with someone, but how is that done? Cuz, I mean... I'd have to find someone who wants to do the same dungeon at the same time O_O

Sorry for all the questions lol
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To trade with your guildmates, you can:

- Write in the guild channel (/g1 , /g2 etc) and maybe someone will answer.
- Go to the bank, and look into the guild store, which is a kind of auction hostel. You put your stuff there with a price, and people have access to it and can buy them (and you get the gold). I actually haven't tried it yet, so I don't really know how it works. On the other had, you can also buy stuff from players here.

Don't buy anything from NPCs, that's just waste of money, you can loot gear nice enough to lvl without problem. Prices won't change, and there is no trading skill like in Skyrim. BUT, use NPCS to repair your stuff, that is useful.

A group in nothing like a guild, it's a team of several people doing the same thing in that specific moment. You'll need to group with people to do dongeons, etc. Just right clic on a person's name (on the chat for example) and you will have the option "Invite to group", you can also invite a person next to you by interacting with him.

There is an option in your group menu that permits you to use the group researcher tool (looks like a magnifying glass). You select which dongeon you're interested n doing, and what is your role (Tank, dps, heal) and it will find others people that, like you, are searching.
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[quote='xiongmao' pid='170728' dateline='1400241757']
Hey,

Thank you both for helping!!

So, yesterday I was invited to join two trade guilds, and I accepted... now tho I am having a technical problem... how do I actually trade stuff with the guild's members? I was going through the tabs andcould not see anything that looked like the right tab...

you can trade through chat with your guildies the chatbox has options to choose who sees what you type.

For me though, I go to the bank. I talk to the banker and select guild store. From there I can sell my stuff, browse the items for sale, look at the goods I hav for sale.


Also, I noticed NPC vendors have ridiculously high prices for their merchandise, but will pay me a misery for my stuff. Is this gonna change? I was wondering if it is similar to Skyrim where the price depends on how high your trading skill is (tho I don't think there is a trading skill in ESO).

it won't change. The only stuff I sell to vendors are food items, gear that is ornate, loot that says to sell to a merchant for gold, bound items I no longer want, and low quality gear that players won't buy. All the good stuff goes to the guild stores or to players who buy gear from me. Don't buy/sell good good supplies and equipment to npc vendors.

Other question... what's the difference between groups and guilds?

Guilds are meant to be long lasting organizations. groups are just ad hoc cooperatives for a short duration to do a group dungeon or beat some tough things out in the world like dolmens <dark anchors> or wilderness mini bosses. Occasionally, folks just group for the fun of it and just run around in the wild beating things up. If you are in a group, you experience point gain is more than solo play.

if you are in a group and u want 2 talk to your groupies type /g

And how can I invite anyone to start either...

For grouping you can go up to a player press f to interract then select invite to group.
otherwise press p and the groupin menu opens and you can find other players to group with according to options you select.

especially to do dungeones, I noticed some of them are far too hard to do on your own, so I guess I'd have to team up with someone, but how is that done? Cuz, I mean... I'd have to find someone who wants to do the same dungeon at the same time O_O

group dungeons are hard and they are meant for groups. Use the instructions above. Usually in local chat ppl are trying to put together groups for the group dungeons in that zone. You'll see lfg (looking for group) to do spindleclutch(just an example) need healer and tank(examples of build types). You can respond to their chat messages. You'll get an invite to group. Press e to accept the invitation. Then you may want to open the group menu (p) right click on the other player's name and select travel to player.

Sorry for all the questions lol

That's what forums are for; sharing information.

If you are ever at a loss in game you can use chat to just ask random strangers in the area a question. I see people asking for help all the time.

Jon

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Hi again. Wow that is a lotta info, thanks a bunch! I have actually been experimenting with groups and guilds lately... it's one of those things that, once you start doing, become far less complicated. Been buying stuff from the guild store and I put up some listings... tho nobody has bought anything of mine, I guess they are not of a high enough level.

To be honest, I am still having problems finding people who wanna start a group, seems like nobody can be bothered... either that, or that the people who do want to start a group tend to be high level and looking for high level people as well =/

But the real problem is something else... I am unable to finish most quests... I get to the point where I have to kill the boss of a given quest and they are far too powerful, and i mean so powerful I don't even stand a remote chance. And these are quests which are my level, or one or two levels below (i don't even try with higher level quests given this)... So, I am forced to quit the quest and go look for a lower level one, but I cannot find anymore left, they all seem to be 12 and above. I am at a point in the game where I am literally stuck, cannot do anything. Because I cannot finish any quest I cannot level up, which means and I am stuck in this loop. Today I couldn't even go up half a level after 5 hours of playing... (I am level 12). I am in Auridon by the way.

I did do most of the quests in Khenarthi's roost I think, including the main one, and THEN moved back to Auridon, but still... this hasn't helped clearly.

What do I do? Tbh, I am kinda losing the enjoyment of the game... A challenge is nice, but this is just plain frustrating.
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When low level, everything is pretty much easy enough for you to do alone. You should maybe check on your gameplay and spells and try to do it differently.
Try to have a spell that will heal or shield you.
Try to block at the right moment (when the enemy does heavy attack for example)
When the enemy is casting a spell (red sparks around him), try to interrupt it (by cliking both mouse buttons together)
Use a heavy attack when the enemy is off balance (looks like he's stunned), which happens when you interrupt a spell or when you block a heavy attack.
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In public areas you can wait for other players to fight the boss and join in and you'll get credit for beating it. And as lokart said check your gameplay. This little video might help:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH23TgNbt1o

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There are a lot of guides out there, but only a few worth using so be careful of what ones you use or listen to.
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Can I play solo in ESO? Are there any possibilities to play without a guild and be good in pvp? Can I make some gold in this way? Here is a very good website which shows that it worth to play and sell gold in ESO https://mmogoldprice.com/game/the-elder-scrolls-online Price is very good not like in other games where price is 1$ per 100 milions
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