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Hey how many people out there don't like the idea that some one from one faction can't go into another factions area ? And think that it should be changed that we can do that before they release the game ?


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Not me no.

I like the fact that I can roll an alt and get totally new content all the way to cap, its one of the things i hated about swtor/wow. Plus the game is built around the war, so each faction closing its borders makes perfect sense to me, I certainly can't see it changing this late in the development cycle. The re-playability alone makes it one of the features I'm most looking forward to tbh
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This is a war man there's no time for stupid questions


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(February 10th 2013, 11:10 AM)dafroog Wrote: Not me no.

I like the fact that I can roll an alt and get totally new content all the way to cap, its one of the things i hated about swtor/wow. Plus the game is built around the war, so each faction closing its borders makes perfect sense to me, I certainly can't see it changing this late in the development cycle. The re-playability alone makes it one of the features I'm most looking forward to tbh

But it limits people's chose to be unquie I mean me and my best friend want to play together but thing is he wants to be an argonian and I want to be a high elf. Also what about ur solo players that would like to go anywhere cuz they aren't allined with anyone. That and people like me I don't want to have to make more than one character I just want focus on one and be able to explore from there.

(February 10th 2013, 11:11 AM)grimmjow Wrote: This is a war man there's no time for stupid questions

What about people don't want to fight in the war and just want to explore and hang with friends ?
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(February 10th 2013, 11:18 AM)Daraanar Wrote: But it limits people's chose to be unquie I mean me and my best friend want to play together but thing is he wants to be an argonian and I want to be a high elf. Also what about ur solo players that would like to go anywhere cuz they aren't allined with anyone. That and people like me I don't want to have to make more than one character I just want focus on one and be able to explore from there.

Quite frankly tough is the answer, the entire plot of the game is about the conflict between the three sides, its kinda like saying "I don't want Oblivion gates in Oblivion because they get in the way of exploration" or "dragons Shouldn't be in skyrim, they haven't been in tes games before and they get in the way of exploration"

You can want no faction locks/dragons/oblivion gates all you want and yes its true that they do cause issues, but much like dragons and oblivion gates faction locks are an integral part of the games plot.

I would rather have re-playability and factions that actually mean something, than just end up with another swtor where yes the faction plots are different but your still going to the exact same places and killing the exact same things just in a slightly different order
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(February 10th 2013, 11:36 AM)dafroog Wrote:
(February 10th 2013, 11:18 AM)Daraanar Wrote: But it limits people's chose to be unquie I mean me and my best friend want to play together but thing is he wants to be an argonian and I want to be a high elf. Also what about ur solo players that would like to go anywhere cuz they aren't allined with anyone. That and people like me I don't want to have to make more than one character I just want focus on one and be able to explore from there.

Quite frankly tough is the answer, the entire plot of the game is about the conflict between the three sides, its kinda like saying "I don't want Oblivion gates in Oblivion because they get in the way of exploration" or "dragons Shouldn't be in skyrim, they haven't been in tes games before and they get in the way of exploration"

You can want no faction locks/dragons/oblivion gates all you want and yes its true that they do cause issues, but much like dragons and oblivion gates faction locks are an integral part of the games plot.

I would rather have re-playability and factions that actually mean something, than just end up with another swtor where yes the faction plots are different but your still going to the exact same places and killing the exact same things just in a slightly different order
I disagree cuz dragons and oblivion gates didn't permently keep u from exploring an area. Also in skyrim even though in skyrim u have the imperial and storm cloak war u could still wander in both sides areas so what's so different now? Plus the elder scrolls games have always been focused on exploring not war.


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(February 10th 2013, 11:44 AM)Daraanar Wrote:
(February 10th 2013, 11:36 AM)dafroog Wrote:
(February 10th 2013, 11:18 AM)Daraanar Wrote: But it limits people's chose to be unquie I mean me and my best friend want to play together but thing is he wants to be an argonian and I want to be a high elf. Also what about ur solo players that would like to go anywhere cuz they aren't allined with anyone. That and people like me I don't want to have to make more than one character I just want focus on one and be able to explore from there.

Quite frankly tough is the answer, the entire plot of the game is about the conflict between the three sides, its kinda like saying "I don't want Oblivion gates in Oblivion because they get in the way of exploration" or "dragons Shouldn't be in skyrim, they haven't been in tes games before and they get in the way of exploration"

You can want no faction locks/dragons/oblivion gates all you want and yes its true that they do cause issues, but much like dragons and oblivion gates faction locks are an integral part of the games plot.

I would rather have re-playability and factions that actually mean something, than just end up with another swtor where yes the faction plots are different but your still going to the exact same places and killing the exact same things just in a slightly different order
I disagree cuz dragons and oblivion gates didn't permently keep u from exploring an area. Also in skyrim even though in skyrim u have the imperial and storm cloak war u could still wander in both sides areas so what's so different now? Plus the elder scrolls games have always been focused on exploring not war.

The war in skyrim was just a rebellion, it wasn't an all out war between skyrim and cyrodiil, it was an internal uprising. In this game its all out war

My point with the dragon/gate thing wasn't that it prevented you from seeing the area, it was just that its core to the plot of the game, so asking to remove it would be the same thing, because the faction war is a large part of the plot in this game and has been used in all their promo material so far (much like dragons were in all the skyrim promo's).
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(February 10th 2013, 11:57 AM)dafroog Wrote:
(February 10th 2013, 11:44 AM)Daraanar Wrote:
(February 10th 2013, 11:36 AM)dafroog Wrote:
(February 10th 2013, 11:18 AM)Daraanar Wrote: But it limits people's chose to be unquie I mean me and my best friend want to play together but thing is he wants to be an argonian and I want to be a high elf. Also what about ur solo players that would like to go anywhere cuz they aren't allined with anyone. That and people like me I don't want to have to make more than one character I just want focus on one and be able to explore from there.

Quite frankly tough is the answer, the entire plot of the game is about the conflict between the three sides, its kinda like saying "I don't want Oblivion gates in Oblivion because they get in the way of exploration" or "dragons Shouldn't be in skyrim, they haven't been in tes games before and they get in the way of exploration"

You can want no faction locks/dragons/oblivion gates all you want and yes its true that they do cause issues, but much like dragons and oblivion gates faction locks are an integral part of the games plot.

I would rather have re-playability and factions that actually mean something, than just end up with another swtor where yes the faction plots are different but your still going to the exact same places and killing the exact same things just in a slightly different order
I disagree cuz dragons and oblivion gates didn't permently keep u from exploring an area. Also in skyrim even though in skyrim u have the imperial and storm cloak war u could still wander in both sides areas so what's so different now? Plus the elder scrolls games have always been focused on exploring not war.

The war in skyrim was just a rebellion, it wasn't an all out war between skyrim and cyrodiil, it was an internal uprising. In this game its all out war

My point with the dragon/gate thing wasn't that it prevented you from seeing the area, it was just that its core to the plot of the game, so asking to remove it would be the same thing, because the faction war is a large part of the plot in this game and has been used in all their promo material so far (much like dragons were in all the skyrim promo's).

Well in an all war there's always the option of peace. And what about players that don't want to be part of the war but still hang out with friends from other factions ?


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Daraanar, if you're a citizen of any country, try walking and exploring your enemies territory and see how it goes, asking them for peace isn't going to do anything. This would make the game too unrealistic and take away from the feeling of completely being in another world.


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(February 10th 2013, 12:00 PM)Daraanar Wrote: Well in an all war there's always the option of peace. And what about players that don't want to be part of the war but still hang out with friends from other factions ?

You CAN chose to not take part in the war, thats why there is a large pve area for each faction, but not taking part personally doesn't give you free reign to enter an enemies territory.

They have the option of rolling an alt and getting access to a 100% new and unexplored content. So its not like you cant play with your friend

In all war there is an option of peace? Thats not actually true, and certainly isn't a choice for most people, theres an option of not getting involved yourself (but even that wasn't likely especially in medieval times where they would just cart you along in chains anyway if they thought you were fit enough)

Its common that in a time of war for the nations involved to close their borders to each other. There would be the odd exception to the rule, but allowing players to do it at will in game would make it the rule rather than the exception which at a time of war is unrealistic.
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(February 10th 2013, 12:07 PM)Tagoar Wrote: Daraanar, if you're a citizen of any country, try walking and exploring your enemies territory and see how it goes, asking them for peace isn't going to do anything. This would make the game too unrealistic and take away from the feeling of completely being in another world.

What's unrealistic is not being able to be friends with other from other factions because they don't want to be part of the war. I'm not asking for peace just the ability to sneak in and meat and hang with friends and still be the race we all want to be. Plus it's the midevil ages it's not like the factions army is going to know I'm there the instant I cross the border.

(February 10th 2013, 12:12 PM)dafroog Wrote:
(February 10th 2013, 12:00 PM)Daraanar Wrote: Well in an all war there's always the option of peace. And what about players that don't want to be part of the war but still hang out with friends from other factions ?

You CAN chose to not take part in the war, thats why there is a large pve area for each faction, but not taking part personally doesn't give you free reign to enter an enemies territory.

They have the option of rolling an alt and getting access to a 100% new and unexplored content. So its not like you cant play with your friend

In all war there is an option of peace? Thats not actually true, and certainly isn't a choice for most people, theres an option of not getting involved yourself (but even that wasn't likely especially in medieval times where they would just cart you along in chains anyway if they thought you were fit enough)

Its common that in a time of war for the nations involved to close their borders to each other. There would be the odd exception to the rule, but allowing players to do it at will in game would make it the rule rather than the exception which at a time of war is unrealistic.

Ya but u have be like level 50 to enter the pvp area
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(February 10th 2013, 12:16 PM)Daraanar Wrote: Ya but u have be like level 50 to enter the pvp area

No you don't you can enter cyrodiil at level 10

"Players may join the PvP action as soon as they reach level 10, and jump right into the action without fear"

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(February 10th 2013, 12:26 PM)dafroog Wrote:
(February 10th 2013, 12:16 PM)Daraanar Wrote: Ya but u have be like level 50 to enter the pvp area

No you don't you can enter cyrodiil at level 10

"Players may join the PvP action as soon as they reach level 10, and jump right into the action without fear"

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http://elderscrollsonline.com/en/game-gu...liance-war

Oh can u team up with others from other factions in cyridal ?


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(February 10th 2013, 12:45 PM)Daraanar Wrote:
(February 10th 2013, 12:26 PM)dafroog Wrote:
(February 10th 2013, 12:16 PM)Daraanar Wrote: Ya but u have be like level 50 to enter the pvp area

No you don't you can enter cyrodiil at level 10

"Players may join the PvP action as soon as they reach level 10, and jump right into the action without fear"

From:

http://elderscrollsonline.com/en/game-gu...liance-war

Oh can u team up with others from other factions in cyridal ?

No, you can arrange to work with another faction if your factions are losing, but you wont be allowed to team up with specific players from another faction, because that would defeat the point of the pvp map.

There's a chance you may be able to guild with them (paul sage hinted at that in an interview on mmorpg.com), but you wont be able to group up for pvp or pve unless your on the same faction
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by the Divines not this thread again. Please go to bethesda forums, there are thousands of posts on topic there. The very fact that OP cannot even spell Cyrodiil makes worry


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