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This Topic is to discus magic of Temriel, its history and its future in the ES series.

For me important part of ES experience is it Magic element and role it takes in ES world.

So far magic is divided into different schools: Alternation Destruction Conjuration Restoration Illusion, and different elements Poison Fire Lightning Frost Holly. This are those that i am use to from Oblivion and Skyrim, but honestly in game as huge as ESO i want more.
In TESO will they implement the old school Fire lighting frost and holly, or since it 1000 years before skyrim will they bring back some of old magic like Earth magic and Poison magic.
Is there some magic that is counter to Holly? Will they add more elements in the future expansion?
How can we as ES fan base can help Zenimax to improve magic of ES universe.
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holly? holy? not sure what you mean by that. i actually cant remember there beeing any "holy" damage. probably in daggerfall i never paid any attention to magic in that game.
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First of all sorry for my lack of social skills, some times its hard for me to get my point of vie to other people.
I dint meant as Holly damage, i meant as holly element that you use in Restoration to Heal, and by counter i meant something that does pure damage, or when you absorve health to actually apply logical element to this function, instead of just " Damage target health" or " Absorve target health", something like unholy element ^^ , sorry for cliche.
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Would be nice if it got some kind of HOMAM magic setup/perk (fire, water, wind, earth, holy, unholy and arcane)...
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If holy is applied to restoration, healing etc., shouldn't it count as dark/ shadow magic when you raise undead minions?


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I really like the elder scrolls way of doing magic and I think its a lot deeper and more involved than most games, including other MMOs. I can't think of any way to improve on it. To me its the perfect system already. No white or black, each is its own thing.
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as far as iknow. there is no "holy" magic in TES. in Some way every magic is holy as it draws from aetherius. And linked to magnus. and also Aka-auri-el due to his connection to the sun.
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I would imagine they will stick with the same schools of magick as found in the ES games, since they are trying to follow the lore. It wouldn't make a whole lot of sense to deviate from that.
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(November 23rd 2012, 06:39 AM)Tabbycat Wrote: I would imagine they will stick with the same schools of magick as found in the ES games, since they are trying to follow the lore. It wouldn't make a whole lot of sense to deviate from that.

You say that, but with every title of elder scrolls magic is different, in Oblivion you had Mysticism and poison destruction spells, as well as spells like damage stamina and magicka, and in Skyrim you don't haw this type of magic. Not to mention Redguards before they came to Temriel, wielded Earth magic. I am curies in time of war what types of magic will be used in TESO and will they bring some of the forgotten spells that don't exist in current ES titles.
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Yes, there is no "holy" magic in the way that you might expect to find it in other MMOs. If you want to take a very narrow view of it, all magic is 'holy' since it is the remnants of Magnus when he departed from Mundus into the Aetherius (creating the sun). However, most magic users don't think of it like this (at least I have noticed that in the games at least).

Restoration magic may be viewed as 'holy' magic since it is primarily practiced by priests, but you do not need to be a priest to practice it, therefore it is not "holy" in the traditional MMO sense.

In oblivion we see Alteration, Conjuration, Destruction, Illusion, Mysticism, Restoration, and Alchemy as the "magical skills". While alchemy isn't "magic" it fell under the purview of the magic skill set.

Magic is one of the three skill groups in Skyrim (Combat and Stealth being the other two). The crafting skill for magic is Enchanting. The five other magic skills (Alteration, Conjuration, Destruction, Illusion, and Restoration) correspond to the five schools of magic in Skyrim. Here, Alchemy has been removed form the "magic" category and moved into stealth. Since it is not a purely "magical" skill.

Necromancy is something that was outlawed during the Oblivion game and something that I believe would be the "opposite" of the 'holy' Restoration school. Necromancy also appears in Skyrim in the Conjuration school where you can choose to summon either Atranochs or reanimate corpses.

Also, in Oblivion, in the Restoration school along with the "heals" you had all of the "absorb" skills. Including "Absorb Health". So there already was an opposite to Restoration magic. Since TESO will happen before the ban on Necromancy, maybe we will see it in more widespread use throughout this era during the was.

As far as Redguards using earth magic, I haven't read that but will have to look into it. Maybe they could have it be a magic that is specific to that race?


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generaly magic in the TES world is more of a science than anything else. magic is not judging. it is neutral. there is no good and no bad magic.
its up to the user. magic is a tool. nothing more.
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(November 23rd 2012, 02:56 PM)Sordak Wrote: generaly magic in the TES world is more of a science than anything else. magic is not judging. it is neutral. there is no good and no bad magic.
its up to the user. magic is a tool. nothing more.

In theory. However, the people of Tamriel have always applied a moral stigma to certain kinds of magic. For instance, the ban on necromancy by the Mage's Guild. Also, the use of the necrotic arts by the Sloads tainted it in the view of the Aldmeri and a part of that has for sure been passed down to their descendants.

While yes, magic is a tool that can be used for good and evil, there are certain schools of magic that are, in general, perceived by the people of Tamriel to be 'evil'.


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not talking on how its precieved here. this was just meant to elaborate on the fact that there is no "holy" or "Dark" magic in TES.
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(November 23rd 2012, 03:37 PM)Sordak Wrote: not talking on how its precieved here. this was just meant to elaborate on the fact that there is no "holy" or "Dark" magic in TES.

I never said that there was. I simply said that restoration magic could be viewed as 'holy' magic by some.


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all i want from teso is a vast magical tree so that pvp magic is actually skill and nt just spamming fireballs
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