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Military might of the Orsimer


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My first guess is that it's comparatively low.

Orsinium has been rebuilt over and other for many times, as it has been sacked quite frequently for a city. Most likely sacked because they didn't have the manpower required to defend it. I try to consider that they are split into many seperate clans, which would explain the weakness of the Orsimer.

While the individual martial prowess of the Orsimer can not be questioned in most scenarios. I really think the the massed power is very, very fallible.

Now i'm going to ask for your opinion guys.

Are they a force to be reckoned with?, or are they to be crushed under the boot of the conqueror.
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Orcs as individual warriors: Some of the best.
Orcs as an army: Not able to defend themselves.


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Orcs as a nation are the pushover of Tamriel. I lost count how many times Orsinium was razed to the ground.
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(February 10th 2013, 01:52 PM)The Rogue Knight Wrote: Orcs as a nation are the pushover of Tamriel. I lost count how many times Orsinium was razed to the ground.

Only because of their preference for clans, lack of organization, teaming up of Bretons and Redguard against them.

It also sucks that TES Orcs have to deal with something that they never really had to deal with before on other fantasy worlds.....

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Imma say they've been sacked because their race. Doesn't matter how much their military prowess goes... if 9 others racers hate your guts, your empire is just gonna keep falling. Khajiit and Argonian are far south in their very own climate, while orcs are mountanious. So their pretty much screwed being surrounded in a small region. That said, maybe somewhere else they would flourish with their military prowess.

To be fair though @shaun, I think you might be right with the clans. Aside from brute strength, the clans wouldn't ban together from politics, charasmatic leaders, or even a common goal, genocide aside. And in this case, they kinda sold out to join DC I guess.


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Well they are surrounded by people who hate them, they don't stand much chance.
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(February 10th 2013, 01:52 PM)The Rogue Knight Wrote: Orcs as a nation are the pushover of Tamriel. I lost count how many times Orsinium was razed to the ground.

30 years to take Orsinium the first time. Hardly pushovers. And in both instances when Orsinium was razed, it took two nations to uproot them...

I blame Malacath...
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I certainly wouldn't want to fight them. A United orc army would be a match for anyone in open warfare
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(February 10th 2013, 12:07 PM)Knightmare Wrote: Orcs as individual warriors: Some of the best.
Orcs as an army: Not able to defend themselves.

I totally agree.


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Yaaah, these aren't the orc warbands you see in Warhammer. . they're more like grand-masters the way I see it. Everything they do has both a brutish quality, but also a unique finesse. Something that isn't the same in large scale warfare. Take an individual samurai, and he might be able to fight 3 men. . but take 50 samurai and 50 other men. . it's a pretty large difference in how the battle goes, and it requires many different aspects to be known besides how to fight.
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As ive pointed out before: the Orc army is the most pathetic in the settign, beeing the only one in history ever to get defeated by bretons.

Wich is akin to beeing defeated by cupcakes.
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(February 11th 2013, 02:37 PM)Sordak Wrote: As ive pointed out before: the Orc army is the most pathetic in the settign, beeing the only one in history ever to get defeated by bretons.

Wich is akin to beeing defeated by cupcakes.

I blame Malacath!
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(February 11th 2013, 02:54 PM)Hwrath Gro-Khash Wrote:
(February 11th 2013, 02:37 PM)Sordak Wrote: As ive pointed out before: the Orc army is the most pathetic in the settign, beeing the only one in history ever to get defeated by bretons.

Wich is akin to beeing defeated by cupcakes.

I blame Malacath!

I blame Boethiah!
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(February 11th 2013, 05:10 PM)Kilivin Wrote:
(February 11th 2013, 02:54 PM)Hwrath Gro-Khash Wrote:
(February 11th 2013, 02:37 PM)Sordak Wrote: As ive pointed out before: the Orc army is the most pathetic in the settign, beeing the only one in history ever to get defeated by bretons.

Wich is akin to beeing defeated by cupcakes.

I blame Malacath!

I blame Boethiah!

I blame Trinimac! He shouldn't have allowed himself to be defeated, eaten, impersonated, transformed, or whatever REALLY happened; which turn us into the strong, deadly, powerful, warriors and master-craftsmen that we are!

Wait...that doesn't sound so bad ;)
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I think that the orcs could be strong being united and better organized under the Daggerfall Covenant. Especially since they're working with the redguard and breton instead of fighting them
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