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Oblivion scholar (Feedback welcomed!)


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I have a character that I think his good, but I need help to improve him and make it better. (also choosing which race he should be). His name will eventually be corresponding to the chosen race.
He is a conjurer/illusionist that is always helping other but also likes to walk in a grey zone with necromancy and daedric summoning and controlling minds with illusion spells. He strives to achieve great things but he is always in an almost evil zone doing so and can be quite sadistic some times. I don’t know if you get what type of character I want him to be. I just need some help shaping him better… If anyone has good ideas…

Firstname –
???

Surname –
???

Title –
Shadow walker

Sex –
Male

Race –
???

Age –
27

Occupation –
Daedric scholar

Faction –
Mage’s Guild

Appearance –
He is relatively young, 5 feet 11 tall 175 pounds he looks a tad frail with short brown hair. He has a somewhat elongated face and flat nose, thick eyebrows, strong jaw and small cheekbones. When you see him, you remember immediately that you have already seen him, but can’t figure where and when. He goes unnoticed, he blend into the mass.

Social Background/Backstory –

(Name)‘s father was working has a Jarl's advisor, always wispering in his ears. Despite having deep respect from him, he didn’t seen him has a true father figure. Often absent, he was not involved much in day to day life of the household. He was bringing back enough money so they could have a pretty decent living thus, but did not care much about anyone else feelings than his. Loving being the center of attention, he liked being seen has an important men and everybody seemed to appreciate him much. Social status was everything for his father. Despite thinking he would never be like his father, this was a valuable lesson for him. Always be kind to everyone, you never know when you might need them; and if you do something wrong, they will never believe it and the accusatory will only look like a jealous men.
His mother was a teacher to some wealthy children. Strict and caring, she was very protective. At home, she was often complaining about the past, never seeming to be truly happy in the present.
His one year younger brother, after an adolescence hanging with common thugs, started running on gold has a carpenter. Often having some illegal activities on the side, probably more for the thrill than the need has he been a hard worked and never running out of money.
(Name) never had the strong build of his brother, his childhood was marked by sickness and he was bought to healers quite a few times per years. It was pretty much only lying in a temple, listening to priestess doing some prayers for him. He thought that it was the most useless thing to do. A good restoration mage would have been so much more helpful there than those silly priestess. He enjoyed reading during these periods of sickness, stories about heroes, mages and Oblivion. His smaller build and less attractive look always made him more of a loner. He had few friends but those he considered as such were very important in his heart. He did envy his younger brother, always more popular and wealthy. Physically strong and appealing, no girls were resisting long to him. He often thought that if he had tried harder to be physically fit, he could have become just like him. This is probably why he developed such a white knight syndrome, always needing to somewhat save some lady in distress. Most of these girls he tried to help were simply taking advantage of him. He was often giving then money or trying to help them in any possible ways he could. He was always looking to find a desperate one, so he could help her. He enjoyed being the savior, being praised for helping. He was searching the popularity feeling he seen his father and brother gets from others.

When old enough he moved to Cyrodiil to join the mage’s guild. He chose deliberately to pursue higher studies far from home. Cutting somewhat the bonds with his family, feeling his place was elsewhere. He still visits them quite often, each time he has enough money for the trip back.
He enjoyed the scholar life, always learning, always discovering. He could never shy away from a good mystery. Loving books and ancient history, Snow elves and Dwemer were naturally of high interest for him, but what he enjoyed most was Oblivion. His favorite books were "Notes on racial phylogeny" by the imperial university, also obviously the famous "On Oblivion" and "The doors of Oblivion". He started by wanting to become an explorer, finding mysteries in Dwemer ruins or ancient tombs filled with precious artifacts. But everything seemed to already have been discovered. Not much tombs and precious artifacts were still to be uncovered he thought. Every piece of land could be seen whit a map. He was learning so much about the world itself that alteration was extremely hard for him. Bending reallity was something he was hardly able to do because he couldn't let is mind escape tje knowledge of the world's mechanisms he inew. The only really unknown countries were not in this dimension did he think.
Despite his sense that in this world everything was already discovered, on the other hand, human life itself was the biggest unknown yet to be discovered. There was such mystery still hiding there. Restoring life, healing was such poorly known and most people weren’t caring much. Only seeking a healer when sick and never really wondering how life itself was actually working. Healing was very appealing to him and satisfying his humongous need to help others. His research was much appreciated in academia, even if most scholars thought that it was useless, they did not see any harm in amelioration of restoration and healing knowledge. But the limit of life is eventually death, and to better understand life, you must understand death. He wasn’t talking necromantic, he did not particularly enjoy dead bodies, neither was he trying to get immortal or raise an army of servants to bend his will (despite liking the feeling), but he knew that the better understanding of life needed to learn from what necromancers already knew. But he never did go as far has studying necromancy itself. Each times he talked about the subject; the only thing he got was grim looks. Still, he deeply knew that healers could benefits from necromancy knowledge, for him the need justified the means. Let's just say that sneaking behind a bandit with his war axe has never caused him any ethical problem...


Best Memory –
The first time he summoned an atronarch and linked with him, the feeling of control was maddening for him.

Worst Memory –
The numerous rejections, he feel like he is never good enough, that he won’t be able to achieve his dreams.

Skills -
Light or medium armor, one handed, magic (Illusion, conjuration, restoration)

Challenges for the Character -
He has a white knight syndrome, always needing to save woman in distress but he often gets carried away and so is easily influenced. He has also a sadistic nature, liking to control others and bend them to his will. He pushes the limits of knowledge and discovery but he is always on the verge of morality to do so. He also lack any ability in alteration magic, it's something he really can't master.

Birthsign –
Atronarch

Religious Views –
He worship Hermaeus Mora
This post was last modified: December 20th 2013, 01:28 PM by Nicklas
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Getting back to you on your request for feedback. I see this is another iteration of your archaeologist character I've previously seen.

All in all, like before you have the bones of a good character in terms of personality, but you're lacking the spine, at the risk of a strange metaphor. The races of Tamriel are very different, their mentalities are strongly shaped, their physiology distinct. In my opinion the race you choose should find parallels in your characters personality and skills. Obviously no general statements about the races are set in stone, but to avoid any social shaping at all will be rare. Also, of course, appearance is strongly defined by race.

Essentially, pick a race before you come up with the character. I think what you have down, the direction you seem to be heading would suit a Breton most of all. The White knight syndrome, the magical leanings, even pushing boundaries somewhat are quite nice parallels with Breton society.

Apart from tailoring your character to be part of the TES lore, you could explore how he came to worship Hermaeus Mora, and how that affected his slightly 'grey' lust for knowledge. Perhaps the way Hermaeus Mora relentlessly searches for new knowledge to add to Apocrypha shaped your characters thinking about how far he will go, dipping into Necromancy and the like. After all, Hermaeus doesn't see some knowledge as good and some bad, he is largely amoral, and it seems like your character leans that way too.

However, as I said, I like some of the personal continuity you have going. His upbringing directly affects what he has become, he develops a need to help women because he is unsuccessful with them, his best memory is related to finally feeling like the one in control, and so on. So essentially, bring him into the TES Lore and you have a pretty interesting and complex character.




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(December 20th 2013, 11:34 AM)Thorfinn Wrote: Getting back to you on your request for feedback. I see this is another iteration of your archaeologist character I've previously seen.

All in all, like before you have the bones of a good character in terms of personality, but you're lacking the spine, at the risk of a strange metaphor. The races of Tamriel are very different, their mentalities are strongly shaped, their physiology distinct. In my opinion the race you choose should find parallels in your characters personality and skills. Obviously no general statements about the races are set in stone, but to avoid any social shaping at all will be rare. Also, of course, appearance is strongly defined by race.

Essentially, pick a race before you come up with the character. I think what you have down, the direction you seem to be heading would suit a Breton most of all. The White knight syndrome, the magical leanings, even pushing boundaries somewhat are quite nice parallels with Breton society.

Apart from tailoring your character to be part of the TES lore, you could explore how he came to worship Hermaeus Mora, and how that affected his slightly 'grey' lust for knowledge. Perhaps the way Hermaeus Mora relentlessly searches for new knowledge to add to Apocrypha shaped your characters thinking about how far he will go, dipping into Necromancy and the like. After all, Hermaeus doesn't see some knowledge as good and some bad, he is largely amoral, and it seems like your character leans that way too.

However, as I said, I like some of the personal continuity you have going. His upbringing directly affects what he has become, he develops a need to help women because he is unsuccessful with them, his best memory is related to finally feeling like the one in control, and so on. So essentially, bring him into the TES Lore and you have a pretty interesting and complex character.


Thanks! Effectively, it's a new version of the archeologist... Trying to get him more interesting. I want to create a great character i will enjoy playing, so i am pretty mich sticking withe the same start build (1-handed mage/necromancer or 1-handed shield warrior) since these are the builds i tried so far and liked. Trying to make him complete and good so i will enjoy RP with him. (Never had much occasion to RP so it's a bit of learning... Bit I am enjoying!) I will try to follow your advices! For now effectively he sound a lot Breton. (Maybe Altmer might also be an interesting choice perhaps...) Still wondering the direction it will actually take for the final form.
Thanks for your time and comments!
This post was last modified: December 20th 2013, 01:35 PM by Nicklas
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Hey Nicklas, glad Thorfinn already got to you with some quality feedback and points!

I like the character's personality and behavior, which seem very "down-to-earth" and grounded. He has his doubts and worries over his own abilities and apperance, and tries to improve them in one way or another. And while he has a white knight syndrome, he enjoys the idea of power or control over others. These are relatable things found in the human psyche, so there's definitely awesome for you to incorporate into your character. I think all of it sets up an interesting character with possible dilemmas in his decision making that you wouldn't find in someone who is all good or all evil and always feels that they're right.

The reasons behind actions is an intriguing concept to think about. For example, committing a good deed for another. Is it done purely for the act of helping out someone else? Or is it done to make you feel morally proud of yourself? Or is it done so you could receive some sort of item or favor from the person you helped? The action may be the same, but the intention and expectations afterwards may be totally different.

Over time with brainstorming and continued writings, I'm sure you'll be able to hammer out a character that you're completely happy with. Settling on a breton race may allow you to further flesh out who he is as a person, and not just on an appearance level! From there you'll be able to work out what his perspective and viewpoints may be, due to his upbringing as a breton (also depending on where he was born.) A breton born in High Rock may be more familiar with their caste system for example, while a breton born in Skyrim may be raised feeling a bit like an outcast from the local Nord population.

Good luck on completing this character, Nicklas!


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