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Somehow, ive managed to reach lvl 22 and only obtained a provision skill lvl of 10.
im no longer in daggerfall im in the next zone storm heaven.
I have all my bank slots filled with only provisioning items yet I can't craft a single recipe. the all say I need to be rank 2. (to obtain that rank i need to be lvl 20 provision skill)

now, every time i get a new food item i can't process it because my skill is to low.

it would seem the low lvl food only drops in the low lvl zone.

so now i have a lot of recipes a ton of higher lvl food and not the skill needed to cook.

seems like my only choice is to stop questing in storm heaven and return to daggerfall just so i can find low level food like think broth and meal.

This seems stupid and at the least not fun.
what if someone wanted to start provisioning when the reached storm heaven. would they never be able to craft food at all?

I seem to be the only one with this problem so im wondering if i have my head up my arse or just some really really bad luck.

PLEASE HELP ! im having a hard time getting past this problem and its ruining a very fun game for me.
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(April 5th 2014, 10:45 PM)Coldfish Wrote: Somehow, ive managed to reach lvl 22 and only obtained a provision skill lvl of 10.
im no longer in daggerfall im in the next zone storm heaven.
I have all my bank slots filled with only provisioning items yet I can't craft a single recipe. the all say I need to be rank 2. (to obtain that rank i need to be lvl 20 provision skill)

I believe you need to invest skill points in the Provisioning skill line to access higher tier recipes (I think there are four tiers?). I had the opposite experience with provisioning: I got my Provisioning to 35 while my character was only level 10. It levels up very quickly once you have access to recipes & ingredients.
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(April 6th 2014, 05:02 AM)OldElf Wrote:
(April 5th 2014, 10:45 PM)Coldfish Wrote: Somehow, ive managed to reach lvl 22 and only obtained a provision skill lvl of 10.
im no longer in daggerfall im in the next zone storm heaven.
I have all my bank slots filled with only provisioning items yet I can't craft a single recipe. the all say I need to be rank 2. (to obtain that rank i need to be lvl 20 provision skill)

I believe you need to invest skill points in the Provisioning skill line to access higher tier recipes (I think there are four tiers?). I had the opposite experience with provisioning: I got my Provisioning to 35 while my character was only level 10. It levels up very quickly once you have access to recipes & ingredients.

that is incorrect.
other crafts yes, but not provision. the only way to be able to do higher lvl provisioning is by cooking only.
heck, they even made it so you can't hire a hireling until you are maxed out skill wise.

as it stands, i now have 2 alts just for storage of all the high lvl food stuffs. once im ready ill go back to newby land and search crates and shit untill i have doubled my skill (from 10 to 20) then i can use the ton of stuff ive been finding in stormheaven. good grief what a pain
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Provisioning is easy, except for finding recipes to use the ingredients one finds. I'm at about L24 provisioning, L12 general, and I'm mainly cooking to get rid of the stuff I collect, since I have enough food and drink to last for several days of game-time.

I was a bit disappointed to discover that I can only have one food buff active at a time. I went at provisioning with the expectation of being able to buff 6 ways at a time.

I was also a bit disappointed to discover that the main source of recipes is NPC property. This does not sit well with me, in a role-play sense. My characters don't mind scarfing stuff from dungeons or bad-guy houses, but taking from containers in neutral houses and aboard ships is theft. I was hoping that there would be some way to acquire recipes from vendors or NPC cooks. So far I have not found any.
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I spent the last 20 hrs in game unable to craft a single food item. I have over 20 duplicate recipes in the bank and tons of recipes of things i can make if I only had the items to cook with.

in the last 2 days in Stormheaven(20 hrs gaming) i looted like crazy, stopped by the docks as well and hit ever barrel bag and crate.
I thoes 20 hrs i was not able to craft a single recipe. Even tho I had the recipes I did not have the skill. So 20 hrs later I'm still lvl 10 provisioning.

a warning to all provisioners, don't leave daggerfall until you have reached lvl 20 in provisioning. (or have enough in the bank to get you to lvl 20)

update: for now, i've giving up on provisioning, I just don't have the space.
what i've done is make 3 mules just to hold all my higher lvl food . i will go back to daggerfall and stay there hunting barrels and crates and what not's till i lvl my provisioning to lvl 20.
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(April 6th 2014, 01:42 PM)Coldfish Wrote:
(April 6th 2014, 05:02 AM)OldElf Wrote: I believe you need to invest skill points in the Provisioning skill line to access higher tier recipes (I think there are four tiers?). I had the opposite experience with provisioning: I got my Provisioning to 35 while my character was only level 10. It levels up very quickly once you have access to recipes & ingredients.

that is incorrect.
other crafts yes, but not provision. the only way to be able to do higher lvl provisioning is by cooking only.

Actually, this is correct, you do in fact need to spend skill points in provisioning in order to access higher-tier recipes. But, those upgrade options don't unlock until you hit a certain level in provisioning. One other thing to note is that you get much more XP by crafting higher level recipes, so try to gather ingredients for the best recipes you have.

(April 7th 2014, 05:10 AM)Coldfish Wrote: I spent the last 20 hrs in game unable to craft a single food item. I have over 20 duplicate recipes in the bank and tons of recipes of things i can make if I only had the items to cook with.

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a warning to all provisioners, don't leave daggerfall until you have reached lvl 20 in provisioning. (or have enough in the bank to get you to lvl 20)

You may be on to something - it could be that recipe and food craft items drop based on your overall level instead of your crafting level. This would be a bug, I think. I was more on-level with my crafting skill, so drops were almost always what I needed to cook with. It did start dropping some very high level recipes for a while like veteran rank 5 - 10 stuff (I think that was a bug that got fixed)
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"You may be on to something - it could be that recipe and food craft items drop based on your overall level instead of your crafting level. This would be a bug, I think. I was more on-level with my crafting skill, so drops were almost always what I needed to cook with. It did start dropping some very high level recipes for a while like veteran rank 5 - 10 stuff (I think that was a bug that got fixed)"


I guess a way for you to prove that would be to go back to the beginning zone and dig thru crates and barrels and see if you get high lvl items.

I believe it has to do with higher lvl zones only have higher lvl drops.

I will go back to daggerfall and to this test. im now lvl 28.
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Update: I went back to the beginning city daggerfall and raided all the barrels and crates by the dock. I picked up all low lvl stuff and was finally able to do some provisioning.

My conclusions have been proven correct. dont leave daggerfall with provisioning under 20. You will not find any low lvl provisioning items in the next zone called Stormheaven.
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(April 8th 2014, 06:27 AM)Coldfish Wrote: Update: I went back to the beginning city daggerfall and raided all the barrels and crates by the dock. I picked up all low lvl stuff and was finally able to do some provisioning.

My conclusions have been proven correct. dont leave daggerfall with provisioning under 20. You will not find any low lvl provisioning items in the next zone called Stormheaven.
Um, I know I'm being somewhat picky, but I think you mean to say Glenumbra and Stormhaven. In the former case, there are plenty of ingredients for level 1 recipes in Glenumbra outside of the City of Daggerfall, so no one should feel any need to stay in the city to bump provisioning levels. The latter case is probably just misspelling, but I'm amused at the notion of the place being a heaven for storms rather than a haven from them.

Back to the main topic, I did discover a couple of level 15 recipes in Glenumbra when I was level 12 with level 22+ provisioning. I was able to make the stuff when I got the ingredients. Some of the ingredients were common to lower-level recipes.

Also, in case there is any confusion, the recipes themselves are consumables. You have to consume one in order to learn it. After that, duplicate copies are mostly vendor trash, unless you can share them with guildmates or are willing to give up bank space to them for future characters.
This post was last modified: April 8th 2014, 10:15 PM by Poldano
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