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This is a thread to discuss the Bretons and maybe learn something new about them. I have got this info from uesp, the imperial library, wikia, theelderscrollsonline.com and elderlore.wordpress.com and tried to make a summary of it.

Official info made by the devs of Teso: The men and women of High Rock were once ruled by High Elf overlords. Some Elven blood still runs in their veins, giving Bretons an innate grasp of magic that distinguishes them from the other human races. Passionate and flamboyant, intelligent and resourceful, the Bretons are renowned and talented craftsmen, shrewd merchants, gallant cavaliers, and inventive wizards. They can also be proud and quarrelsome. Tales of warfare between the kingdoms of High Rock account for much of their history, but most revere the Eight Divines and value prosperity over glory.


History

The history of the Bretons starts with the Atmorans in Skyrin travelled west, to High Rock. But the province had already been taken by Aldmer from the Direnni clan. The Direnni enslaved the humans and kept them as slaves. But the two races started breeding with eachother and a new race were born, the Bretons. They were called Manmer by the elves and lived as lower-class Citizens. The new race were dicovered by a Nord hunting Group who first believed it was new race of elves, ut then stopped and saw what they were. They told their people and the Nords sent an army to try to free the Bretons from the Altmer, but they were stopped at the reach. When the Direnni started to lose Power, the Bretons started to take Power without violence, and the Bretons became in the end the largest Power in High Rock.

They have often had small skirmishes between them, but most of the Bretons just want to live in Peace, but after the Warp in the west (also called the miracle of Peace) in 3E 417, in a year only Three strong and peaceful kingdoms remained.

Biology: Bretons are the descendants of an Aldmeri-Atmoran people that settled in High Rock. Bretons are sometimes called "Manmer" because of the interbreeding, it is translated to 'man-elf' in the language of the Aldmer. They inherited the magical affinity of their elven blood. The Bretons are along with the Nords, are the palest of all the races, they have the physical strenght and toughness of the races of men, but they still have Little of the frail and Sharp appearence of the elves. They make some of the greatest mages in Tamriel.

Personality: They are Passionate, eccentric, poetic, flamboyant, intelligent and willful. But also freindly and humorous. (excellent Cooks too ;) )

Culture

The Bretons have many important Days and events such as the flower day in first seed 25th. The Children pick the new flowers of spring while older Bretons, cooped up during the Winter, come out to welcome the new season with dancing and singing.

Architecture: The Breton villages that dot High Rock are usually just made of small farmhouses, an inn and sometimes a castle. Their cities however is sprawling trading-hubs.

Society: The most Bretons are farmers or traders and in the Southern and richer parts of High Rock. The Breton nobility are a mass of titles, and family lines. Although the Bretons are divided into groups, their speech, architecture, and even clothing are pretty much the same.

Notable locations: Daggerfall

One of the oldest and largest cities of High Rock, Daggerfall has long considered itself the capital of High Rock.

Wayrest:Wayrest has always seen itself as the rival of Daggerfall, Daggerfall ws already a large kingdom when Wayrest was just a small fishing village. That however changed and now Wayrest is a sprawling trading hub, one of the largest in the Iliac Bay.

Wars:

The Nord-Breton War was between the High Rock-Skyrim Alliance and Cyrodiil. At first the war went well for the Alliance. Then General Tiber Septim destroyed the Alliance during the Battle of Sancre Tor. The Nords joined Cyrodiil in an alliance, and then together they defeated the Bretons who returned to High Rock and tried to fight of the invaders but failed.

The battle at Sancre Tor: The citadel was not only protected by an unscalable cliff in front and unscalable heights in their rear, but the entrance to the citadel was magically concealed under the appearance of a large mountain lake in the basin beneath the heights. Accordingly, the Nord-Breton allies left on a small force to defend the citadel, descending through lower passages to attack and overwhelm the cold, hungry Cyrodilic forces before them. They expected to defeat, overrun, and annihilate General Talos army.
Leaving a weak force in the lowlands to draw out the defenders, General Talos approached the citadel of Sancre Tor from the rear.

While the Cyrodilic army in the lowlands fought a desperate defense against the Nord-Breton army, General Talos and his men entered the citadel, swept aside the defense, captured the Nord-Breton nobles and generals, and forced them to surrender the citadel and their armies. The confused Nord captives, deserted the alliance and swore loyalty to Tiber Septim. The combined armies of Cyrodiil and Skyrim defeated the Bretons.


3E 249 - 3E 267

3E 247 In Valenwood, Haymon Camoran (later known as Camoran Usurper) claims the throne of Camoran Dynasty and starts his conquest to rule Tamriel.

3E 249, Camoran Usurper conquers Valenwood and continues his conquest north, to invade Hammerfell and Colovia. Emperor Cephorus tries to halt Camoran Usurper by sending troops to the west, but to no avail.

3E 253, At the Battle of Dragontooth, the Camoran Usurper defeats the armies of Taneth and Rihad of Hammerfell. Southern Hammerfell falls.


3E 263, Most of Hammerfell has been conquered by Camoran Usurper and he aims to defeat High Rock.

3E 267, Camoran Usurper launches his force to attack High Rock. The alliance of High Rock kingdoms led by Baron Othrok of Dwynnen meets Usurper army in the Iliac Bay.
The combined armies of High Rock mustered the greatest navy ever seen, and defeated and killed the Camoran Usurper and his armies on the Iliac Bay and on land.

Major Battles
Battle of Dragontooth, 3E 253. The defeat of the armies of Taneth and Rihad lead to the fall of southern Hammerfell.

Battle of Firewaves, 3E 267. The combined armies of Dwynnen, Ykalon, Phrygia, and Kambria led by Dwynnen's Baron Othrok finally defeated the Usurper

War of the Betony: 3E 402 - 3E 403[33]

The war was caused when Lord Mogref of Betony asked King Lysandus of Daggerfall for protection against pirates and other brigands. King Camaron of Sentinel and his advisors, citing an old contract that suggested Betony was a holding of their kingdom, declared war. Hostilities ended after Lysandus' son, Gothryd, who became king after his father was killed in battle at Cryngaine Field, won the battle and defeated Camaron in single combat. Sentinel surrendered and Betony passed under the control of Daggerfall.

Major Battles
Battle of the Bluffs: The first major battle of the war. Who was won by Daggerfall.

Siege of Craghold: The Island of Craghold was besieged by the forces of Sentinel for several days, but the siege was broken by Daggerfall forces under Lord Bridwell.

Battle of Cryngaine Field: Final battle of the conflict. The battlefield was covered in a mist created by Skakmat ((Nulfagas, a powerful Breton sorceress dragon familiar, in an attempt to stop the war.)) and after it lifted King Lysandus was found to have perished from an arrow through either his heart or his throat. His son Gothryd was crowned on the battlefield and led the army to victory.



Religion: Akatosh
(Dragon God of Time) Akatosh is the dragon god of time and chief deity of the Eight Divines.

Magnus
(Magus) The god of sorcery, Magnus withdrew from the creation of the world at the last second, though it cost him dearly. What is left of him on the world is felt and controlled by mortals as magic.

Y'ffre
(God of the Forest) Y'ffre transformed himself into the first of the Ehlnofey, or 'Earth Bones'. After these laws of nature were established.

Dibella
(Goddess of Beauty) Popular god of the Eight Divines. In Cyrodiil, she has nearly a dozen different cults, some devoted to women, some to artists and aesthetics, and others to erotic instruction.

Arkay
(God of the Cycle of Life and Death) A god of the Eight Divines, he is the god of Life and death, and is sometimes associated with the seasons. His priests are staunch opponents of necromancy and all forms of the undead.

Zenithar
(God of Work and Commerce, Trader God) The god of work and one of the Eight Divines.

Mara
(Goddess of Love) The godess of love, and one of the eight divines, she is often married to either Akatosh or Lorkhan.

Stendarr
(God of Mercy) God of the Eight Divines, he is the god of mercy and righteous rule.

Kynareth
(Goddess of Air) Kynareth is a member of the Eight Divines, the strongest of the Sky spirits. In some legends.

Julianos
(God of Wisdom and Logic) Julianos is the god of literature, law, history, and contradiction, he is one of the eight divines.

Sheor
(Bad Man) In Bretony, the Bad Man is the source of all strife.

Phynaster Hero-god of the Summerset Isles, who taught the Altmer how to naturally live another hundred years.
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wow you already made 2 mistakes in the first two paragraphs.
1. no they are not pure spellweavers as i have pointed out before
2. they are *not* nedic. the Bretons are descendants of the old Atmoran tribe that didnt get slaughtered in the night of tears and the Direnni.
While its true that there are certainly nedic strains in em. so are for all the races. the closest youll get to nedes are Nibenese imperials.

the direnni "impregnating nedic women" is also clearly jadet and wrong.
There are no implications about this. They speak of "Interbreeding"
There is speak of them taking mannish wives, none of using them as lust slaves.

they also have no tradition of beeing regardet as powerfull mages. thats the altmer. not the bretons.
the bretons are known to be talented with magic, not for having many powerfull mages since they didnt have those.

like i thought. Biased people shouldnt write articles.
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(May 8th 2013, 09:08 AM)Sordak Wrote: wow you already made 2 mistakes in the first two paragraphs.
1. no they are not pure spellweavers as i have pointed out before
2. they are *not* nedic. the Bretons are descendants of the old Atmoran tribe that didnt get slaughtered in the night of tears and the Direnni.

like i thought. Biased people shouldnt write articles.

Dont complain to me, i Think the pure spell Weaver thing came from wikia and Nedes=atmorans.

(May 8th 2013, 09:08 AM)Sordak Wrote: wow you already made 2 mistakes in the first two paragraphs.
1. no they are not pure spellweavers as i have pointed out before
2. they are *not* nedic. the Bretons are descendants of the old Atmoran tribe that didnt get slaughtered in the night of tears and the Direnni.

the direnni "impregnating nedic women" is also clearly jadet and wrong.
There are no implications about this. They speak of "Interbreeding"
There is speak of them taking mannish wives, none of using them as lust slaves.

like i thought. Biased people shouldnt write articles.

I have read this many times and here it stands about the spell Weaver thing read in the talents section. http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Breton

(May 8th 2013, 09:08 AM)Sordak Wrote: wow you already made 2 mistakes in the first two paragraphs.
1. no they are not pure spellweavers as i have pointed out before
2. they are *not* nedic. the Bretons are descendants of the old Atmoran tribe that didnt get slaughtered in the night of tears and the Direnni.

the direnni "impregnating nedic women" is also clearly jadet and wrong.
There are no implications about this. They speak of "Interbreeding"
There is speak of them taking mannish wives, none of using them as lust slaves.

they also have no tradition of beeing regardet as powerfull mages. thats the altmer. not the bretons.
the bretons are known to be talented with magic, not for having many powerfull mages since they didnt have those.

like i thought. Biased people shouldnt write articles.

And I´ll show you the official Daggerfall descrition about Bretons "Highly intelligent and willful, the Bretons have a natural bond with the forces of magicka. Many great sorcerers have come out of High Rock, and even the humblest Breton can boast a high resistance to the destructive powers of magicka."

I have only read that the aldmer and Nedes got Children wich became the Bretons only there it says that both that they took "lust slaves" as you call it. And the Bretons are half Nedes thats a fact so i guess you were a Little tired when you wrote that because the Bretons are half-NEDES.

If you are so right about Everything then prove it just dont say its wrong. Its easy to say that something is wrong, its Another thing to actually prove it.

This is just a summary of info i saw when i looked at lore sections on tes-related sites.
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I only trust you ((exept the nede thing wich is wrong)) because it didnt stand the same everywere.
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thats why you dont use wikia.
wikia lies.
The nedes are a point thats still beeing discussed. of course the wikia aint quick enaugh to catch up.

The bretons are not half anything by the way.
Also i dont think you can tell me what is a *fact*
there are no facts in TES the setting is built on speculation.

The closest thing you get to nedes are nibenese. While the bretons have nedic ancestors just like any other human race them beeing primarily nedic is absolute nonsense.
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(May 8th 2013, 10:55 AM)Sordak Wrote: thats why you dont use wikia.
wikia lies.
The nedes are a point thats still beeing discussed. of course the wikia aint quick enaugh to catch up.

The bretons are not half anything by the way.
Also i dont think you can tell me what is a *fact*
there are no facts in TES the setting is built on speculation.

The closest thing you get to nedes are nibenese. While the bretons have nedic ancestors just like any other human race them beeing primarily nedic is absolute nonsense.

I didnt mean to say that they are primaly nedic, they are a mixture between two-dead races. The nedes and the Aldmer. Anyway i like to have your feedback even if it comes the hard way. And do you know a source that tells the *truth* about tes? I would love to have one.


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(May 8th 2013, 11:03 AM)Archmage Alator Wrote:
(May 8th 2013, 10:55 AM)Sordak Wrote: thats why you dont use wikia.
wikia lies.
The nedes are a point thats still beeing discussed. of course the wikia aint quick enaugh to catch up.

The bretons are not half anything by the way.
Also i dont think you can tell me what is a *fact*
there are no facts in TES the setting is built on speculation.

The closest thing you get to nedes are nibenese. While the bretons have nedic ancestors just like any other human race them beeing primarily nedic is absolute nonsense.

I didnt mean to say that they are primaly nedic, they are a mixture between two-dead races. The nedes and the Aldmer. Anyway i like to have your feedback even if it comes the hard way. And do you know a source that tells the *truth* about tes? I would love to have one.

there is no ultimate truth.
The closest youll get is what you find at the imperial library.

and no. the bretons are not a mixture of the aldmer and the nedes.
The humans the bretons are bred from were Atmoran.
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(May 8th 2013, 11:21 AM)Sordak Wrote:
(May 8th 2013, 11:03 AM)Archmage Alator Wrote:
(May 8th 2013, 10:55 AM)Sordak Wrote: thats why you dont use wikia.
wikia lies.
The nedes are a point thats still beeing discussed. of course the wikia aint quick enaugh to catch up.

The bretons are not half anything by the way.
Also i dont think you can tell me what is a *fact*
there are no facts in TES the setting is built on speculation.

The closest thing you get to nedes are nibenese. While the bretons have nedic ancestors just like any other human race them beeing primarily nedic is absolute nonsense.

I didnt mean to say that they are primaly nedic, they are a mixture between two-dead races. The nedes and the Aldmer. Anyway i like to have your feedback even if it comes the hard way. And do you know a source that tells the *truth* about tes? I would love to have one.

there is no ultimate truth.
The closest youll get is what you find at the imperial library.

and no. the bretons are not a mixture of the aldmer and the nedes.
The humans the bretons are bred from were Atmoran.

And i have read that Atmorans=Nedes isnt it so?


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(May 8th 2013, 11:22 AM)Archmage Alator Wrote:
(May 8th 2013, 11:21 AM)Sordak Wrote:
(May 8th 2013, 11:03 AM)Archmage Alator Wrote:
(May 8th 2013, 10:55 AM)Sordak Wrote: thats why you dont use wikia.
wikia lies.
The nedes are a point thats still beeing discussed. of course the wikia aint quick enaugh to catch up.

The bretons are not half anything by the way.
Also i dont think you can tell me what is a *fact*
there are no facts in TES the setting is built on speculation.

The closest thing you get to nedes are nibenese. While the bretons have nedic ancestors just like any other human race them beeing primarily nedic is absolute nonsense.

I didnt mean to say that they are primaly nedic, they are a mixture between two-dead races. The nedes and the Aldmer. Anyway i like to have your feedback even if it comes the hard way. And do you know a source that tells the *truth* about tes? I would love to have one.

there is no ultimate truth.
The closest youll get is what you find at the imperial library.

and no. the bretons are not a mixture of the aldmer and the nedes.
The humans the bretons are bred from were Atmoran.

And i have read that Atmorans=Nedes isnt it so?

Ah well thers where the problem lies.
You fell for imperial propaganda!

to quote MK

Out of Atmora (07/10/08):

And for the last time (uh huh), Nedes != Atmorans. That's just shoddy scholarship from a bygone regime.
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(May 8th 2013, 11:26 AM)Sordak Wrote:
(May 8th 2013, 11:22 AM)Archmage Alator Wrote:
(May 8th 2013, 11:21 AM)Sordak Wrote:
(May 8th 2013, 11:03 AM)Archmage Alator Wrote:
(May 8th 2013, 10:55 AM)Sordak Wrote: thats why you dont use wikia.
wikia lies.
The nedes are a point thats still beeing discussed. of course the wikia aint quick enaugh to catch up.

The bretons are not half anything by the way.
Also i dont think you can tell me what is a *fact*
there are no facts in TES the setting is built on speculation.

The closest thing you get to nedes are nibenese. While the bretons have nedic ancestors just like any other human race them beeing primarily nedic is absolute nonsense.

I didnt mean to say that they are primaly nedic, they are a mixture between two-dead races. The nedes and the Aldmer. Anyway i like to have your feedback even if it comes the hard way. And do you know a source that tells the *truth* about tes? I would love to have one.

there is no ultimate truth.
The closest youll get is what you find at the imperial library.

and no. the bretons are not a mixture of the aldmer and the nedes.
The humans the bretons are bred from were Atmoran.

And i have read that Atmorans=Nedes isnt it so?

Ah well thers where the problem lies.
You fell for imperial propaganda!

to quote MK

Out of Atmora (07/10/08):

And for the last time (uh huh), Nedes != Atmorans. That's just shoddy scholarship from a bygone regime.

Ok then Atmorans+Aldmer=Bretons!

But im just wondering since you are the local loremaster, how good were this thread at a scale from 10 to 1.


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i dont give ratings.
Ill criticise things in your threads that you need to change due to beeing inaccurate.
ratings are silly.
who am i to determine the accuracy of an article when i am not its demographic?
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(May 8th 2013, 09:08 AM)Sordak Wrote: wow you already made 2 mistakes in the first two paragraphs.
1. no they are not pure spellweavers as i have pointed out before
2. they are *not* nedic. the Bretons are descendants of the old Atmoran tribe that didnt get slaughtered in the night of tears and the Direnni.
While its true that there are certainly nedic strains in em. so are for all the races. the closest youll get to nedes are Nibenese imperials.

the direnni "impregnating nedic women" is also clearly jadet and wrong.
There are no implications about this. They speak of "Interbreeding"
There is speak of them taking mannish wives, none of using them as lust slaves.

they also have no tradition of beeing regardet as powerfull mages. thats the altmer. not the bretons.
the bretons are known to be talented with magic, not for having many powerfull mages since they didnt have those.

like i thought. Biased people shouldnt write articles.
Not sure if you have written any articles... if so... you seem pretty biased in my opinion. :p

(May 8th 2013, 10:55 AM)Sordak Wrote: thats why you dont use wikia.
wikia lies.
The nedes are a point thats still beeing discussed. of course the wikia aint quick enaugh to catch up.

The bretons are not half anything by the way.
Also i dont think you can tell me what is a *fact*
there are no facts in TES the setting is built on speculation.

The closest thing you get to nedes are nibenese. While the bretons have nedic ancestors just like any other human race them beeing primarily nedic is absolute nonsense.

There are no facts? You seem to be spouting out plenty of accusations passing them as *facts*... just sayin' >.>
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(May 8th 2013, 06:17 PM)Shadowfox Wrote: snip

i havent written any articles. exactly because of that.
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Finally there is a proof that the devs has made that the Bretons have had many great mages in the Daggerfall description "Highly intelligent and willful, the Bretons have a natural bond with the forces of magicka. Many great sorcerers have come out of High Rock, and even the humblest Breton can boast a high resistance to the destructive powers of magicka."


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