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This is a thread to discuss the Redguards and maybe learn something new about them. I have got this info from uesp, the imperial library, wikia, theelderscrollsonline.com and elderlore.wordpress.com and tried to make a summary of it.

Official Redguard info "The Redguards of Hammerfell are talented and athletic warriors, born to battle. A desert people, their ancestors migrated to Tamriel from the lost continent of Yokuda. Their culture is based on preserving ancient traditions and defying their harsh environment. They prize honor and dignity above all else, combining a deep reverence for the divine with a suspicion of all things magical. Their capital is the merchant port of Sentinel, but their roots are deep in the sands of the Alik’r Desert. In their youth, Redguards endure a rite of passage in the desolate wastes of Alik’r as a test of endurance and discipline. Only the strongest survive."


Redguards hail from the province of Hammerfell, they are the most naturally gifted warriors in Tamriel.

History

Redguards hail from the continent of Yokuda, which unfortuanly sank into the sea in the first era. The cause of the continents sinking was probably due to natural disasters, though it may have been something more unnatural ((This is Nirn after all, we have seen loads of crasy things in its lore)). When their homeland sank around 1E 792, the Yokudan people set of on a journey towards Tamriel, and arrived in what is today Hammerfell. The Ra Gada, the Warrior class of Yokuda, assaulted the settlements of the Nedes and elves, leaving only ruins and probably no survivors. After only a few months, the Ra Gada had established a strong presence on the western shores of Hammerfell. From their new conquered land along the coast of Hammerfell, they continued to launch attack after attack, eventually succeeding in driving away the Orcs and conquered the entire province. The Redguards are still newcomers, because the rest of the ten races had already settled down in Tamriel long before the Ra Gada arrived in Tamriel. Even if all races of man are considered newcomers by the elves and beast races. Though when they came they already had a Deep knowledge in the martial arts, science and philosophy, the knowledge in the martial arts were perhaps the one who helped them the most...

The name "redguard" comes from the name "Ra Gada".

Biology

The skin tones of Redguards vary from light brown to nearly black in hue. The Redguards, along with the Nords, are generally more muscular than the other races. And the race are also very tough, thanks to their hard Life in the desert. The Redguards are also very athletic. The Redguards are pretty intelligent aswell, though not as smart as the Bretons or High Elves.

Even Redguards are human, they do not share the same blood as the other races of man, because of their origin in Yokuda. Since the rest of the human races come from Atmora. It is possible however that the Redguards could have left Atmora for Yokuda in the ancient times, but that is a mystery.

Personality

The Redguards can be proud, and they love freedom, adventures and often dangers. This has affected their society much. Like for example their Entertainment of snake charming...

Culture/religion

The main religion of Hammerfell is a mix between ancestor worship and faith in the traditional Yokudan gods. Much of their religious traditions comes from the Nedes, one of the very first people they encountered when they reached Tamriel.

The Redguards despise magic ((there are exceptions)) and probably the most of them Think that magic users are weak and wicked, though they are fond of destruction magic since it fits their society well.

Society

The Redguards are generally fond of adventures and danger, and battle. This has affacted their society. For example almost every Redguard is expected to have atleast a basic grasp of weaponry and combat. This is probably necessary since even much of their entertainment, like snake charming, is a Little dangerous. Young Redguards make a journey in the Alik'r as a test, wich only the strong survive. The political Powers in Hammerfell are the Crowns and Forebears, these two has clashed many times. The Crowns are decended from from the High King and the Na-Totambu who ruled in Yokuda Before it sank, and are following their old traditions. The Forebears however are descended from the Ra Gada warrior class which conquered the province of Hammerfell in the first Place, making them argue about wich one who should rule. And while the Crowns want to stick to their old traditions and gods, The Forebears seek modernity and are welcoming the ways of the empire. This has ofcourse lead to trouble between these two factions.
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Oh i wrote Bretons instead of Redguards XD


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Somewhere I read young Redguards from the coastal cities of Hammerfell on the continent are sent into the Alik'r for one year as maturity ritual. But I don´t know if it was a ingame book or already an lore article... could you investigate? ;)


Who controls the Septim crown?
Who keeps the Allesian Heresy down?
We do, we do

Who knocked Yokuda off the maps?
Who keeps the Dwemer under wraps?
We do, we do

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Wonder if that'll be touched upon in game....


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(May 19th 2013, 03:15 PM)Idriar Wrote: Somewhere I read young Redguards from the coastal cities of Hammerfell on the continent are sent into the Alik'r for one year as maturity ritual. But I don´t know if it was a ingame book or already an lore article... could you investigate? ;)

The devs of Zenimax said that they were sent there as a test, and i have read in a lore site the very same too. ((I dont rmember what site though :c))


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One thing I've always believed was the 'watering down' of the Redguard. By that I mean, the Redguard having breeded (for lack of a better term) with other races (Bretons, Colovians, Nedes, and Nords). And I think this may have caused the modern Redguard to be physically weaker and culturally less devoted to the Way of the Sword than the old Yokudans, which, when you consider what the Redguard are capable of currently, is actually pretty frightening. Any thoughts on this?
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How do you decide which sections are best for each subject from each of the sites? I've always heard that UESP was more reliable than The Elder Scrolls Wiki?




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(June 3rd 2013, 02:51 PM)Thorfinn Wrote: How do you decide which sections are best for each subject from each of the sites? I've always heard that UESP was more reliable than The Elder Scrolls Wiki?

I try to read them all and find a truth, i also notice things in the games, like personalty and stuff. Note: there is no ultiamte truth, but by doing like i do is like the best way you can do to get it pretty true...

(June 3rd 2013, 12:46 PM)Matt120 Wrote: One thing I've always believed was the 'watering down' of the Redguard. By that I mean, the Redguard having breeded (for lack of a better term) with other races (Bretons, Colovians, Nedes, and Nords). And I think this may have caused the modern Redguard to be physically weaker and culturally less devoted to the Way of the Sword than the old Yokudans, which, when you consider what the Redguard are capable of currently, is actually pretty frightening. Any thoughts on this?

*sigh* just because they breed with other human races doesnt mean they get weaker. The elves are generally weaker (thinner) built than the races of men, but a Wood elf can be stronger than a Nord, its just ot so common...

And they are still the best warriors in Tamriel dont worry ;)
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(June 4th 2013, 08:13 AM)Archmage Alator Wrote: I try to read them all and find a truth, i also notice things in the games, like personalty and stuff. Note: there is no ultimate truth, but by doing like i do is like the best way you can do to get it pretty true...

I don't mean to be a jackass, but the first paragraph is identical to a paragraph in UESP on the Redguard. The next section is utterly from The Elder Scrolls Wiki, then you go back to UESP. As far as I can see they entirely identical, just different sections from different sites. You don't seem to have actually changed any of it to reflect the wider research you claim to have done.......




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(June 4th 2013, 08:47 AM)Thorfinn Wrote:
(June 4th 2013, 08:13 AM)Archmage Alator Wrote: I try to read them all and find a truth, i also notice things in the games, like personalty and stuff. Note: there is no ultimate truth, but by doing like i do is like the best way you can do to get it pretty true...

I don't mean to be a jackass, but the first paragraph is identical to a paragraph in UESP on the Redguard. The next section is utterly from The Elder Scrolls Wiki, then you go back to UESP. As far as I can see they entirely identical, just different sections from different sites. You don't seem to have actually changed any of it to reflect the wider research you claim to have done.......

Those sites have the most info, the library has mostly info about history. So i read mostly at those sites.....

I just made a summary and shared. I trusted those sites because they have Always seemed true, the other sites hasnt the same detail of info.

(June 4th 2013, 08:47 AM)Thorfinn Wrote:
(June 4th 2013, 08:13 AM)Archmage Alator Wrote: I try to read them all and find a truth, i also notice things in the games, like personalty and stuff. Note: there is no ultimate truth, but by doing like i do is like the best way you can do to get it pretty true...

I don't mean to be a jackass, but the first paragraph is identical to a paragraph in UESP on the Redguard. The next section is utterly from The Elder Scrolls Wiki, then you go back to UESP. As far as I can see they entirely identical, just different sections from different sites. You don't seem to have actually changed any of it to reflect the wider research you claim to have done.......

But i have been Reading at all the sites for hours, looking for info.
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(June 4th 2013, 08:51 AM)Archmage Alator Wrote: Those sites have the most info, the library has mostly info about history. So i read mostly at those sites.....

(June 4th 2013, 08:51 AM)Archmage Alator Wrote: But i have been Reading at all the sites for hours, looking for info.

Paraphrasing those sites and synthesizing their material is one thing, copy and pasting sections seems disingenuous.
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(June 4th 2013, 09:02 AM)Thorfinn Wrote:
(June 4th 2013, 08:51 AM)Archmage Alator Wrote:
(June 4th 2013, 08:47 AM)Thorfinn Wrote:
(June 4th 2013, 08:13 AM)Archmage Alator Wrote: I try to read them all and find a truth, i also notice things in the games, like personalty and stuff. Note: there is no ultimate truth, but by doing like i do is like the best way you can do to get it pretty true...

I don't mean to be a jackass, but the first paragraph is identical to a paragraph in UESP on the Redguard. The next section is utterly from The Elder Scrolls Wiki, then you go back to UESP. As far as I can see they entirely identical, just different sections from different sites. You don't seem to have actually changed any of it to reflect the wider research you claim to have done.......

Those sites have the most info, the library has mostly info about history. So i read mostly at those sites.....

Paraphrasing those sites and synthesizing their material is one thing, copy and pasting sections seems disingenuous.

My purpose was to share info. To read and write down what it said and thats what i did.

(June 4th 2013, 09:02 AM)Thorfinn Wrote:
(June 4th 2013, 08:51 AM)Archmage Alator Wrote: Those sites have the most info, the library has mostly info about history. So i read mostly at those sites.....

(June 4th 2013, 08:51 AM)Archmage Alator Wrote: But i have been Reading at all the sites for hours, looking for info.

Paraphrasing those sites and synthesizing their material is one thing, copy and pasting sections seems disingenuous.

The Redguards hasnt the deepest lore, and i said i tried to make a summary of it, the most info i found on those sites and didnt want to change much. Incase i would chage something into something wrong.
These articles takes maybe two to Three hours to make, but its purpose is mostly for sharing info.
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@Archmage Alator

The sections you have are word for word sections from UESP and The Elder Scrolls Wiki. It wouldn't be a problem if you didn't seem to be denying it.




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(June 4th 2013, 09:26 AM)Thorfinn Wrote: @Archmage Alator

The sections you have are word for word sections from UESP and The Elder Scrolls Wiki. It wouldn't be a problem if you didn't seem to be denying it.

Im not denying it, they had a detailed ammount of info, and i looked at the other sites, who didnt have much, so i shared what i found. Wich was mostly from Uesp and wiki. I only tried to say that i didnt only look at those sites ^^
I will re-do this later and use my own Words, since i did this one in haste, now when i have a summer-break and doesnt need to study anymore for a couple of months... Finally i can get some proper sleep.... :P

I were researching on all sites for hours, but I took too much time in the research and didnt have enough time to write it with my own Words, I were too stressed since I has studies to do.
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