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Just a thought for the open-minded.

Could we in the Aldmeri Dominion influence Tamriel enough in a positive way during our time on ESO to change the lore of future ES games?

There are good and bad in all races...
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No. That would create a paradox. Which could mean that in the time of Skyrim the Thalmor are not in control of the Imperials and the Imperials not in control of Skyrim which mean's you don't get arrested as the protagonist and never find out you're Dragonborn. The Alduin takes over the world.
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(January 16th 2014, 04:12 PM)bwadark Wrote: No. That would create a paradox. Which could mean that in the time of Skyrim the Thalmor are not in control of the Imperials and the Imperials not in control of Skyrim which mean's you don't get arrested as the protagonist and never find out you're Dragonborn. The Alduin takes over the world.

I'd find out I was Dragonborn, because I'm Dragonborn! Ha! I know what you mean though...

I didn't mean the whole storyline being affected, I meant like "there were some who opposed the regime" if you understand what I mean. This could then be expanded upon - maybe some Altmer and Bosmer stood up for the rights of all in Tamriel and were cast out for it or banished and ended up being scattered all over Tamriel.

Just thinking out loud, that's all.
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Bosmer and Khajiits, yes. Altmer, no. One of the defining facts of the Altmer is that they believe they're simply better than everyone else (and they are). They look down upon all the other races and can't comprehend that their lifestyle is wrong. It is a trait that the Japanese once had over the Chinese and if you ever get a chance to read about the Japanese war crimes I highly recommend it, providing you have the stomach for it.

The Aldmeri Dominion has no race of Man involved with it so therefore their entire way of thinking is completely different. This is of course my opinion regarding this fictional world. But it stands to reason that the Altmer certainly wish to dominate Tamriel to suit their vision and will disregard the other races to do so.
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I am aware of Japanese war crimes. A friend of our family was given a book in the 1950's by his uncle who served in Japan in WW2, the book was taken from a Japanese military camp, it had photographs of torture all the way through it, a personal album, maybe a captain. The book itself was found out to be bound in human skin. Not nice.

Anyway, my point is that there is good and bad in all races. Not all Japanese committed atrocities, not all Germans were Nazis, not all French surrendered, not all Altmer look down on other races.

Like you said, this is fiction so no problem discussing possible outcomes. That's what forums are for! Winking_grinning
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Indeed! I'm not one to shoot down alternative idea's but I'm a sucker for realism and social accuracy. The main question you need to answer is 'why'. Followed by does this make sense.

One of the things that I dislike about fantasy races is they're always stereotyped into a particular way and going against that form is 'Bad RP'. Such as a Bosmer who doesn't follow the green pact.
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No. The Aldmeri Dominion's standing in the minds of the populace of Tamriel wouldn't have changed by the time of more "modern" TES games no matter how "nice" they are in TESO for two primary reasons.

1. Even in the AD is "nice" in TESO the individuals that caused the dislike will still inevitably be born and inevitably carry out the actions they will in order to make people dislike them.

2. The Altmer don't exactly do "nice". While there certainly are Altmer that oppose the ideas of the AD those are but a select few and are likely to be mostly outcasts of Altmeri society. By their very nature Altmer hate the plane of Mundus and thus mankind thus the Aldmeri Dominion would only very rarely be "nice" to mankind or otherwise do actions that would raise their standing in the eyes of mankind.

Also Bosmer kind of have to obey the Green Pact because it's pretty much the only reason they're not still in wild-hunt form. To disobey it is a crime in Valenwood.
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(January 16th 2014, 05:36 PM)Estenil Wrote: I didn't mean the whole storyline being affected, I meant like "there were some who opposed the regime" if you understand what I mean. This could then be expanded upon - maybe some Altmer and Bosmer stood up for the rights of all in Tamriel and were cast out for it or banished and ended up being scattered all over Tamriel.

Just thinking out loud, that's all.

Some did, so creating such a character is just like creating a German around WW2 who didn't like the Nazis. Of course it's plausible.

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The Beautiful: After the wars came an even more brutal period for the Altmer as internal politics were brought to a boil. Worship of the 9 Divine, including Talos, was somewhat common amongst radicals, and a shadowy group calling themselves 'The Beautiful' met in salons for artists and philosophers. It created small extremists groups who believed that the Altmeri identity should be forgotten and the future alone should be embraced. To symbolize this, The Beautiful attempted to destroy the greatest of Altmeri monuments, the Crystal Tower. When these attacks failed they turned their attention other monuments and statues before turning their attention to the Royal families of the Summerset Isle. They abducted and brutalized the princess of Shimmerene before butchering her. This alone sparked outrage against the ideal, while simultaneously worship of Daedra began to increase (Pocket Guide to the Empire 3rd Edition, Events of Oblivion). http://theskyrimblog.ning.com/group/lore...high-elves


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