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Special Race passive/active abilitys?


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What passive/active ability's (and perhaps attributes if that comes) would you want to see for the 9 different races?
Would you have a setup like Skyrim(or older games for that matter...), or several ability's (but no attributes) like in GW2 (for better balance)
or mayby completely new sets of skills?

I would like to have something like GW2 setup.
(why would you have any other weapon than bow, if you play wood elf, get my point?)
This post was last modified: November 17th 2012, 10:19 PM by Esparado87
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I always liked the way all races had a distinct advantage over others in certain areas. Like Breton with restoration magic or Orcs with axes. If they go for a similar skill level up system than Morrowind or Oblivion, it's not harmful for balance at all, since all races can achieve the same results, but simply won't start with the same edge in skills. Let's say the orcs start with 25 in axe skill and bretons start with a 10, but they start with 25 in resto while the orcs are stuck with a starting 10, nothing's hurting the balance if both can hit 100 in these skills at some point. This way, no one would cry seeing an orc healer or a breton warrior, since both would be viable if properly trained.

I must say, I like the GW2 system as well, but I'm definitely a fan of the old Elder Scrolls system, always felt intuitive and well designed :)

As for your question: "why would you have any other weapon than bow, if you play wood elf, get my point?"
I think the starting edge has a much lesser impact than you think. It's not a flat bonus (like +5/10 expertise for orcs with an axe in Wow) or a higher cap for certain races (like orcs won't go to 115 in axes because they have a starting edge), so I think the old system would work just fine.

What do you think?
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I agree with the post above me. I'd also like to see them keep certain things like how Argonians are resistant to poisons and can breathe underwater.
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we had a long thread about this way back.
We know that there wont be any stats, but its likeley there will be some racials.
I have always supported the GW2 way of aproaching racials (as in giving each race a scaling but not OP racial ability, that you can slot instead of your class abilities)
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For your convenience: http://www.tesof.com/topic-race-stats


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Altmer- Automatic Magicka refiller, or a powerful Magicka regen.

Bosmer- Stealth/Sprint... A powerful stealth ability that would also allow them to run away from battle extremely quickly... so like a vanish/short movement speed buff... Of course, these would both be on big cooldowns.
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exactly NOT that qallidex. that forces players to pick a race according to class. so no. definitly a big no. if we get something like this, make it work with each class.
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(November 18th 2012, 09:42 AM)Sordak Wrote: exactly NOT that qallidex. that forces players to pick a race according to class. so no. definitly a big no. if we get something like this, make it work with each class.

It's beneficial to play a race that supports your class, and realistic. I don't want to see a hundred Breton Warriors, decked out in full-plate, tramping around the battlefield, do you?
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i do? Because its lore apropriate. bufoon.

and even if you now follow up with some other "argument".

Its just like saying: i am austrian, obvioulsy i got a racial bonus to beeing a dictator. right? right?

you are beeing neither aprorpaite to a realistic aproach, nor to a TES lore aproach. try again.
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Hmm... you might want to calm down Sordak. I know I'm new here and you seem to have some kind of reputation, but this kind of douchebag attitude isn't going to create a good community, at least in my opinion. I thought that by joining this site I could witness and take part in some interesting theorycrafting about the game (be it "lore appropriate or not) but, so far, I'm seeing you in pretty much every threads being either aggressive or downright insulting... I don't care if that's your "style", like you stated in a previous thread, I believe I saw in the rules that being polite was a thing here, and it is on pretty much any forum. If you're too "passionate" to have a calm, interesting discussion, even if it's already been discussed a lot (or to death) by others, then simply don't take part in it or point out the old threads and stop caring...

Should I expect an angry response? Or maybe a ban for trying to talk some sense into an over-heated senior member? In any case, I've made my point. :)
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(November 18th 2012, 10:45 AM)Grommy Wrote: Hmm... you might want to calm down Sordak. I know I'm new here and you seem to have some kind of reputation, but this kind of douchebag attitude isn't going to create a good community,

Yes, he does have a reputation for being a douche, but anyways, the racial abilities (such as I've described) have been implemented into many games, and work just fine, so I'm not sure where you're getting this from... Most likely you want to be an Argonian Warrior or something, and simply don't think this will be beneficial to you, if implemented, but I don't really care to continue speculating...

Maybe you just need some cranberry juice (The Departed reference, tehe).
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ok. youre a new member to this community. i guess it is something i realy do have to explain time and time again when we get new members.

I AM calm. And please, please keep your heroic struggle one against the many to yourself. Or if thats what you see yourself doing right here. I am by no means the old community member that can do whatever the hell he pleases. My warning rating is actually at 60% right now.

It is simply none of your business. Its the business of the moderators to enforce manners. Why is it not your job? because we all are highly biased and subjective. therfor it is for a few selected individuals to decide what is acceptable and what is not. so please do not waste your breath with it. It does no good.

Oh yeah and when you say you try to talk "sense" into me. I take this as a personal insult. I do think i know very much what i am saying, and i think i know very much why i am saying it.


SO qallidex. Why am i calling you a bufoon. Becuase you are ignorant of what has been stated before. Nameley that there will not be any racial atributes.
And for the other reasons i have mentioned. I guess my assesment of the situation was therfor correct and i stand by it.
Of course it is always a good choice for an argument to dismiss my point as defending my own position.
But the fact of the matter is, the race in TES was always very much a flavor choice. the racials were, for the largest part, marginal besides the one of the bretons and the altmer. So i can turn this argument right around at you and say: you only want the racials because you want an unfair advantage over any non altmer mages.

and i actually do think you want that. You have claimed your racial allegiance enaugh by now, and in fact cause no less douchebaggery than i do here in the process, including a massive flamebait thread on the EP board wich only hasnt been canceled because it was "in character"
doesnt make it any less flamebait.
So if you want to play the moral guardian here, step down my friend because you are certainly not the one that should be educating me about beeing a douchebag.

And to conclude on the matter: yess i am a douchebag, but im a douchebag thats right, and youre a douchebag thats wrong.
I know where to stand in this.
This post was last modified: November 18th 2012, 10:59 AM by Sordak
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(November 18th 2012, 10:54 AM)Sordak Wrote: And to conclude on the matter: yess i am a douchebag, but im a douchebag thats right, and youre a douchebag thats wrong.
I know where to stand in this.

I'm willing to meet you halfway here, and agree with you that you're a douchebag... as to the other point, we'll have to agree to disagree.
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on your expirience with my "douchebaggery" you can probably guess what i give about opinions.

it rhymes with not a bingle cluck.
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(November 18th 2012, 11:06 AM)Sordak Wrote: on your expirience with my "douchebaggery" you can probably guess what i give about opinions.

it rhymes with not a bingle cluck.

If that were true, my opinion earlier wouldn't have gotten you so emotional (though you claim that you weren't, your posts clearly state otherwise).
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