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The Banking dilemma


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Well I have a level 4 character parked at the beginner island bank with just a single backpack upgrade and he is "Mr Rune Storage" and that's all he does - it helps but its not a solution.

It seems that again the game is having problems with millions of people logging from one character to another at the banks. This is because we can't post gear and resources to our own characters and the management claims this is to prevent people from using the postal system as additional storage space. Well, here are a few ideas:

Allow us to post to our own characters but put a limit on the number of entries in your inbox. Your postbox becomes full if old mail is not deleted after a certain limit. Make postage costs fair. What is cheap for a level 50 character is currently beyond the means of a level 5 character. No message should ever cost more than 1 gold.

This would allow us to send off resources to the characters that use them without needing to log on and off and on and off ad nauseam.

Finally, what I'd really like to see is an "overflow" system. That is, you are allowed to loot or accept more than you can carry but you cannot move (or move extremely slowly - you are encumbered) until you have used (recipes, potions, food or drink) or deleted enough to no longer have items in your overflow. I don't think the current hard cap is of any benefit to anyone especially when looting chests and bodies.
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Inventory management is a traditional problem of ES games, and I am not at all surprised to see ESO following in the tradition of its predecessors. The cynic in me suspects some of it is intentional, a form of "queue management" a la Disney.

I appreciate the problem you are trying to address. So far, I have not used alts as mules, but I was planning to do so as soon as I can log in again. I don't like the general practice, but I find that it is almost unavoidable to avoid during any play where items can be obtained. There are a substantial number of things that ZOS could do with respect to inventory management that they have not done. For example, you speak of deleting items. I don't know how to do that, except via vendor. I run into the problem constantly, although I try to be careful of what I loot. I thought it was an intentional omission that is intended to reduce customer assistance requests and complaints to restore accidentally deleted stuff. I would be willing to delete accidentally looted items and items that are less useful than items more recently found. I have not yet found documentation on how to do so. In truth, I have not tried pressing the "DEL" key yet, but I probably will as soon as I have the need and the ability. If there is an undocumented way to do it, I could avoid many vendor visits. But, maybe forcing vendor visits is intentional, to cool demand on adventuring sites, as I've hinted above.

With respect to your specific complaint about enchanting runes, ZOS could make more of the rarest stone types available. I currently have a pile of green stones that I have not yet researched, as well as a few blue stones, because I have not come across a sufficient number of yellow stones that I can use. I have no intention of putting any skill points into Enchanting until I have translated enough green and blue stones to be able to make a useful enchantment on demand. A "useful" enchantment is one that is used for items I make or currently have in my possession. Most such items are armor, somewhat fewer are weapons, and the least common are jewelry. Most combinations seem to make jewelry enchantments, which I generally just sell off to vendors. I understand the adventuring aspects involved in discovering runes, and I appreciate the intent to make enchanting a challenging pursuit. The current design and the restriction on specific stone types, however, works directly against the obvious server-operator's desire to limit the quantity of bandwidth used to shuttle idle resources back and forth.

I also appreciate that ZOS is trying to mitigate against gold farmers, and that some of the limitations may be aimed at those sorry folks. Your suggestion on intra-account posting seems not to play into the hands of the farmers excessively, especially since farmers have no obvious need to communicate with avatars on the same account that is different from that of recreational players. There are, in addition, other schemes that ZOS does not have in place that can help mitigate that problem.

One thing that really irks me is that all the pre-order bonus items use up inventory space, and popped into my main's inventory as soon as I clicked on a specific item in the mail attachment. If I were designing the system, I would at least have made the mailed unbankable items occupy quest inventory space. Even better, I would have made extra bank or inventory space, or both, pre-order bonuses. Either of those would have been a more effective enticement for me than vanity pets. As it is, I currently consider pre-order items wasted space. The maps in particular require a fairly photographic recall of specific places, similar to Skyrim. In Skyrim, however, maps were weightless, and hence did not limit a player's capacity to carry other items, and could be stuffed into any convenient container after use, to clear unnecessary distractions from inventory.
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(April 12th 2014, 11:55 PM)Poldano Wrote: you speak of deleting items. I don't know how to do that

Click (L) on the item(s) in inventory (you will see the cursor turn into the items icon), then click outside of the inventory. You get a confirmation dialog to delete it, and if you accept your item(s) is gone.


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(April 13th 2014, 11:00 AM)HalloweenWeed Wrote:
(April 12th 2014, 11:55 PM)Poldano Wrote: you speak of deleting items. I don't know how to do that

Click (L) on the item(s) in inventory (you will see the cursor turn into the items icon), then click outside of the inventory. You get a confirmation dialog to delete it, and if you accept your item(s) is gone.

I was going to suggest just dropping it on the ground and leaving it, but I guess this works too Winking_grinning


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(April 14th 2014, 07:16 AM)Lord Burl Wrote:
(April 13th 2014, 11:00 AM)HalloweenWeed Wrote:
(April 12th 2014, 11:55 PM)Poldano Wrote: you speak of deleting items. I don't know how to do that

Click (L) on the item(s) in inventory (you will see the cursor turn into the items icon), then click outside of the inventory. You get a confirmation dialog to delete it, and if you accept your item(s) is gone.

I was going to suggest just dropping it on the ground and leaving it, but I guess this works too Winking_grinning

You can't, the game won't let you.


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(April 14th 2014, 08:39 AM)HalloweenWeed Wrote:
(April 14th 2014, 07:16 AM)Lord Burl Wrote:
(April 13th 2014, 11:00 AM)HalloweenWeed Wrote:
(April 12th 2014, 11:55 PM)Poldano Wrote: you speak of deleting items. I don't know how to do that

Click (L) on the item(s) in inventory (you will see the cursor turn into the items icon), then click outside of the inventory. You get a confirmation dialog to delete it, and if you accept your item(s) is gone.

I was going to suggest just dropping it on the ground and leaving it, but I guess this works too Winking_grinning

You can't, the game won't let you.

Oh, wow! I thought I remembered being able to drop stuff in the beta, but either I have a terrible memory (highly possible) or they changed it (highly likely).
This post was last modified: April 14th 2014, 12:07 PM by Lord Burl


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Yes banking slots are very important in this game since you only get the initial 60 and costs $1000 gold just to get another ten slots.

The next ten slots will cost you $3,300.

I have destroyed quite a lot of items and I only have three low level characters.

Oh and I did send some items through the mail to one of them.

When you collect everything that you can (I.E. Iron Ore, Raw Jute, Maple wood, Runes, Flowers etc...) you end up with a ton of it.

Then add it all those Treasure Maps that you get if you got the Collector Edition those 60 bank slots fill up ultra fast.

Add in no Auction House and you will end up destroying dozens of items, usually; worms, crawlers, race gear styles that you will never use and don't want to take the time to sell to others.

Oh and because of that your toons end up with around 30 items in their bags as well which does not help since when you want to grind out quests you don't want to have to head back to town until you have to.

So yes the banking system needs some serious work because those limited slots can be used by all of your toons.

I actually filled it up my initial bank slots with my very first toon who has been rerolled.
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(April 14th 2014, 01:04 PM)Kaliselia Wrote: Yes banking slots are very important in this game since you only get the initial 60 and costs $1000 gold just to get another ten slots.

The next ten slots will cost you $3,300.

I have destroyed quite a lot of items and I only have three low level characters.

Oh and I did send some items through the mail to one of them.

You can't send mail to yourself, not even a different char. I have tried.


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