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The Tribunal? The Greybeards?


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Just curious, what are the Tribunal doing with their godhood when Molag Bal is busy making heavy handed attempts to threaten Mundus while the Tribunal is effectively a collective of gods on Nirn? Granted Dagoth Ur gave them trouble as their power diminished by the time of Morrowind and the prophecy but in the 2nd Era they should be at full power so wouldn't they be taking a more active role in this Pact?

I can see a Nordic High King as a general but less so a political leader for the staunch traditionalists of the Dunmer who hold more loyalty to their own people and their houses and even less so for Argonians who just do not care and live in Black Marsh under the Hist. Now between the three factions working together I can see as a possibility, working under the Nords less so. I will believe that this is not the case and the High King IS merely a military leader of the Pact and holds zero actual authority over the other races beyond what the Dunmer and Argonians agree to give on a person to person basis (Given this is an MMO it is safe to assume the player will have zero choice in the matter without paying extra for the sake of cash-grab)

But why do the Greybeards care about what goes on in Tamriel when they preach pacifism and wisdom. Even the Grandmaster Paarthurnax was willing to let the world end because that's the way things are to his mindset. So why do they assist Joruun with their powers in a way that will result in more war? Given that the history of the Greybeards was founded on the idea that using the Thu'um for martial ability and war cursed the Nords and brought the anger of the gods upon them?
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Regarding the Tribunal:
'What role will the Tribunal
play on the Ebonheart side
and in general?
At the time of the Alliance War
in The Elder Scrolls Online,
Almalexia is handling most of the
daily affairs of the Tribunal. Vivec
and Sotha Sil are occupied with
“other matters” – but rest
assured, what those matters are
will eventually be revealed.'
http://www.imperial-library.info/content...re-answers

There is more info down the page. Hope we get to see Vivec.


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(February 4th 2014, 03:03 PM)Nerevarine Wrote: Hope we get to see Vivec.

That would be a thing for sore eyes...


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Well, considering that Vivec was so what's the right word? bad graphicic in Morrowind, they will make him look better, the amount of mods that made him look better are unbelievable.


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(February 5th 2014, 01:00 PM)marsknight2 Wrote: Well, considering that Vivec was so what's the right word? bad graphicic in Morrowind, they will make him look better, the amount of mods that made him look better are unbelievable.

The graphics are not that bad. It actually makes Morrowind quite charming. I would gladly have Morrowind graphics over Oblivion any day.


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(February 5th 2014, 01:15 PM)Nerevarine Wrote:
(February 5th 2014, 01:00 PM)marsknight2 Wrote: Well, considering that Vivec was so what's the right word? bad graphicic in Morrowind, they will make him look better, the amount of mods that made him look better are unbelievable.

The graphics are not that bad. It actually makes Morrowind quite charming. I would gladly have Morrowind graphics over Oblivion any day.

no, what makes morrowind charming is the music, the story line, and a combination of the plants and wildlife, along with the landscapes and quests. there are still many graphical overhaul and combat mods, because both were very bad.
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The devs are just breaking lore by not including Sotha Sil and Vivec. The tribunal could very easily end the entire Molag Bal crisis thing with relative ease if they wanted to. Sotha Sil and Alamalexia defeated Mehrunes Dagon so I'd imagine that defeating the servants of Molag Bal would be pretty easy and Vivec has achieved CHIM so basically he's a god, albeit he could be defeated by an Ansei but they're not in TESO. The whole "Vivec and Sotha Sil on secret business" thing is just a poor excuse.

Now for you're second statement there is no guarantee whatsoever that the pact will win the war. If they do win then Jorunn would logically be seated as emperor but ZOS is screwing that up too. If ZOS hadn't messed that up then the Dunmer and Argonains probably wouldn't argue because Jorunn was elected as leader of the great moot and thereby their leader. Aside from maybe Alamalexia.

Since when did the greybeards participate in the war? to my knowledge they've never once done anything like that.


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Yes I agree. The tribunal could easily just stop Molag Bal. I mean, they are THREE GODS essentially...


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(February 6th 2014, 01:57 PM)ragnar-ice blood Wrote: Yes I agree. The tribunal could easily just stop Molag Bal. I mean, they are THREE GODS essentially...
Well yea, but that would be a horrible plot...


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(February 6th 2014, 02:51 PM)RiDo'Ja Wrote: Well yea, but that would be a horrible plot...

I can see it now! A daedra lord is trying to take Nirn and make it on with his realm!!! And yo are the only one that can stop-wait the Tribunal are here now...kicking butt! Well, that's the game :D


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Doesn't the power of the Tribunal diminish when they get separated from the Heart of Lorkhan? Or was that only because Dagoth Ur was manipulating it?


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Yes the power of the Tribunal was ended when their connection to the heart was severed (well... it was destroyed, actually) but that's not to say it diminishes the further they go from the heart.

The Tribunal could easily stop Molag Bal but just because they're essentially three gods doesn't mean they're completely invincible and can defeat anything. Vivec, for instance, had to flee from an Ansei on Yokuda who threatened to kill him (actually the threat was a bluff but that's not to say there aren't Ansei capable of defeating Vivec).

If you want to talk about things wrong with TESO don't even get me started on the geography of Cyrodiil.


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Aren't Ansei(sword singers/or something)the ones who essentially spilt the atom, with a sword and sunk Yokuda?
Or am I just completely wrong?


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Yes, the Ansei masters were able to split atomos (atoms) with their awesomeness (you know what I mean) which eventually resulted in the sinking of Yokuda.

Cyrus the Restless threatened to kill Vivec and took the stance used to cut atoms which was enough to convince Vivec to leave although Cyrus didn't know the actual technique. Just the stance.


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Ah okay Thumbs_up
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