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VMA Performance (you know where it's going)


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Truly off topic but what did you guys think of the VMA performance? My thoughts:

WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT CRAZY WOMAN DOING?

Why in the world would Miley Cyrus act like possibly the biggest idiot on the plant? If I was in the music business I would not be her manager.

Now her recent record was bang out of order but this? Out of order x2? The fact is she has a young target audience, a very young audience.

Making a sudden change of target audience is suicide, I think madonna did the same in her day or someone else I don't know I'm only 13 its before my time.

What I'm now expecting is the annoying spam on YouTube of 'MILEY CYRUS PORN MOVIE' like Rihanna or however you spell it and a free virus.

So she has two options, neither good for her but these are good options or she can carry on. First: She can continue allowing Disney to run her old Hannah Montana videos and she profits till she dies and continue making kid friendly records or just stop.
Second: She terminates all contracts with Disney, as a result she no longer profits, wait a few years for the kids to grow up and make a come back with her off the rails attitude.

For the record, she was attractive with her long brown hair and I much prefer long to her new cut which just looks stupid on her. I remember a kind kid friendly Cyrus not this sex model.

Oh and that 'between the lines' bit or what ever its called, I don't like the song, made me laugh.
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I honestly couldn't care less, but my friend says she said she's a 'new form of artist' or whatever. To be fair, she can't do the 'kid' thing all her life and she probably thought appealing to the adult audience showed that she was moving on to a more mature career. She obviously didn't consider acting in a more mature thriller or drama.

Honestly, my mind's more taken up my Syria...


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But It's dumb as well.


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On one hand I get that she is wanting to be more 'mature' but personally I think there are better ways for someone to be taken more seriously and perceived as a mature adult. To me, she doesn't seem like an adult, rather a kid that's wants to be an adult but doesn't realize the responsibility of being an adult


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(August 30th 2013, 09:20 AM)DoRakk Wrote: On one hand I get that she is wanting to be more 'mature' but personally I think there are better ways for someone to be taken more seriously and perceived as a mature adult. To me, she doesn't seem like an adult, rather a kid that's wants to be an adult but doesn't realize the responsibility of being an adult

Couldn't agree more, but I couldn't really say because I'm not an adult.


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(August 30th 2013, 12:08 PM)Thomas Bérard Wrote:
(August 30th 2013, 09:20 AM)DoRakk Wrote: On one hand I get that she is wanting to be more 'mature' but personally I think there are better ways for someone to be taken more seriously and perceived as a mature adult. To me, she doesn't seem like an adult, rather a kid that's wants to be an adult but doesn't realize the responsibility of being an adult

Couldn't agree more, but I couldn't really say because I'm not an adult.

It's not even really an issue of being an adult, because let's be honest, "adults" do dumb things all the time. The biggest issue is maturity. She's trying to do mature things, but her methods seem immature to me. It's important to remember her fanbase is mostly young girls, so doing stuff like this sets a bad example. Not to offend but the "I can do whatever i want because I'm an adult now" mentality is very immature


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Okay.

I posted this status on my Facebook about this matter. It may cause some "why so serious" retaliation, but since you asked for opinions...




"Whilst everybody obsesses over a single effing VMA performance and how it was either so super-awesome or so super-scandalous, I cannot help but notice the following:

I don't see anybody obsessing half as much over the events in Syria. Nor did I see that happen over the recent mess in Turkey. The riots in Cairo.

Nor do I see anybody making even a slight note over the fact your entire planet is still being consumed by CO2, pure greed, and destruction.

No, let's obsess over whether Rihanna is back with her criminal boyfriend and whether a 20-year old is losing it or not. Newsflash, she is. Like so many kids out there. Why don't you take a moment and think about what it actually means that this world en masse obsesses over who wore the wrong dress to the Golden Globes, instead of what is keeping us alive and more importantly - what is killing us.

I'm a chick, okay? I like nice shoes, sure. I like jewelry and I like going into town with my best friend to not care for an afternoon. I fully admit this.

But moreso I'm a treehugger supreme. I refuse to support the criminal bio-industry, I only buy and eat stuff that is NOT a product of torture, inhuman behaviour, poisoning or slavery. I find preservation -extremely- important, and the fact some people do not give a fuck whether a forest vanishes or not, whether an animal species goes extinct or not, or whether a monument that has stood there for thousands of years gets blown up for the sake of more modern, concrete crap moves me to actual tears.

This whole effing VMA-ordeal is just a symptom of our biggest issue -- that our balance is gone. Somewhere along the line, we have forgotten that it's wrong to just take. To obsess over nothing but ourselves. The average, present-day human being does not give a single fuck about matters as big as life or death. It gives fucks only about a stupid teenager on a stage.

It's saddening. And it makes me once again ashamed to be a human being. I'm hoping to see something next week that will restore my faith in this world a little bit, something as small as a child actually asking his parents about the world around him instead of whining for a new iPhone at the age of seven would make my day better already.

And you can frown all you want at all of it and call me the effing hippie that I am. But you'll only prove my point.

Shut up about Miley Cyrus who simply needs a whack to the head and to stay grounded until she's 35. She isn't important. Your dying world is.

Rant over."
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(September 1st 2013, 06:02 AM)Triskele Wrote: Okay.

I posted this status on my Facebook about this matter. It may cause some "why so serious" retaliation, but since you asked for opinions...




"Whilst everybody obsesses over a single effing VMA performance and how it was either so super-awesome or so super-scandalous, I cannot help but notice the following:

I don't see anybody obsessing half as much over the events in Syria. Nor did I see that happen over the recent mess in Turkey. The riots in Cairo.

Nor do I see anybody making even a slight note over the fact your entire planet is still being consumed by CO2, pure greed, and destruction.

No, let's obsess over whether Rihanna is back with her criminal boyfriend and whether a 20-year old is losing it or not. Newsflash, she is. Like so many kids out there. Why don't you take a moment and think about what it actually means that this world en masse obsesses over who wore the wrong dress to the Golden Globes, instead of what is keeping us alive and more importantly - what is killing us.

I'm a chick, okay? I like nice shoes, sure. I like jewelry and I like going into town with my best friend to not care for an afternoon. I fully admit this.

But moreso I'm a treehugger supreme. I refuse to support the criminal bio-industry, I only buy and eat stuff that is NOT a product of torture, inhuman behaviour, poisoning or slavery. I find preservation -extremely- important, and the fact some people do not give a fuck whether a forest vanishes or not, whether an animal species goes extinct or not, or whether a monument that has stood there for thousands of years gets blown up for the sake of more modern, concrete crap moves me to actual tears.

This whole effing VMA-ordeal is just a symptom of our biggest issue -- that our balance is gone. Somewhere along the line, we have forgotten that it's wrong to just take. To obsess over nothing but ourselves. The average, present-day human being does not give a single fuck about matters as big as life or death. It gives fucks only about a stupid teenager on a stage.

It's saddening. And it makes me once again ashamed to be a human being. I'm hoping to see something next week that will restore my faith in this world a little bit, something as small as a child actually asking his parents about the world around him instead of whining for a new iPhone at the age of seven would make my day better already.

And you can frown all you want at all of it and call me the effing hippie that I am. But you'll only prove my point.

Shut up about Miley Cyrus who simply needs a whack to the head and to stay grounded until she's 35. She isn't important. Your dying world is.

Rant over."

Nice point buuuut I won't discuss the whole green peace thing because I will get myself banned, the amount of hatred I store for people like you, just judging from what you've posted, is very very large.

I do give a toss about Syria though because my dad could be sent there for another 6 months, he has already spent a total of a year in Iraq, the chemical weapons are unnerving.

I do enjoy a good discussion on current world politics and war and the current Cold War with China could be interesting.

But as I state the whole the planets more important is where I absolutely hate you, nothing is more important than human development.

Do you want to give up your current life? Don't you like electricity and the Internet and cars, or god awful public transport.

Don't you like the idea of colonising different planets and discovering new life out there?

Don't you like everything you own? Cause if we weren't to develop we would be rolling around in our own shit and barely surviving if we don't collect enough food.

I'll be honest with you I couldn't give a shit if some bizarre species goes extinct because its habitat was in the way of our development. It's different if that animal can help us in some way or a plant that could cure AID's.

Now don't tell me your a veggie? Your going against human evolution being a vegetarian. We have evolved to eat meat and plants so were omnivorous.

Are you saying wild cats can't eat meat because its cruel?

Its the circle of life and for a tree hugger I thought you would know that we naturally must eat meat. We drove animals to extinction thousands of years ago by hunting them, because that's what we must do.

Oh and on second thought I support global warming because it will make Britain hotter and will bring in some economic growth for us, orange farms, tourism, etc.


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You obviously did not read my post at all. Where did I say I don't eat meat, for example? You "hate me"? Just wow.

Some of the stuff you say is so blatantly disrespectful, ignorant and based on prejudice that I do not feel like even addressing your questions or remarks. I just saw on your profile though that you're thirteen years old, so that makes it easier to just smile this one off. Thank you however for proving my entire point.
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(September 1st 2013, 02:17 PM)Triskele Wrote: You obviously did not read my post at all. Where did I say I don't eat meat, for example? You "hate me"? Just wow.

Some of the stuff you say is so blatantly disrespectful, ignorant and based on prejudice that I do not feel like even addressing your questions or remarks. I just saw on your profile though that you're thirteen years old, so that makes it easier to just smile this one off. Thank you however for proving my entire point.

And you clearly didn't read mine, these people that I've encountered just want to ruin our current way of life, if you were a true tree hugger you wouldn't be living in a house and would be hunting food.

But of course because I'm 13 I have no fucking idea on anything do I? I'm that naive bastard making assumptions aren't I?

So you added a point to my already large collection of points for saying I couldn't give a shit about the forests and merely stating that I hate your kind for what you want to do and giving you reasons. I guess that's fair enough.

But prejudges is when I just hate on something for no reason, I hate on tree huggers for a reason.

I believe you should use a different word unless I'm mistaken but anyone who wishes to stop cutting down forests to find we have a shortage of wood and minerals like iron or bauxite to make steel and people have no jobs as a result of this ban then there's starving women and children who can't get bread on the table. If I put it that way it sounds far less business orientated.

Then there's farmers who need to cut down the forest to grow their crops so they can eat and supply the local village and their extended family with some more rice. You'll find there's plenty of rational reasons to cut down forest.


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You need to calm down, Thomas. And you have the definition of "treehugger" completely skewed. A tree hugger is an environmentalist.

If you hate environmentalists, then you're essentially contradicting what you've said about human progression.


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(September 1st 2013, 03:17 PM)Tecca Wrote: You need to calm down, Thomas. And you have the definition of "treehugger" completely skewed. A tree hugger is an environmentalist.

If you hate environmentalists, then you're essentially contradicting what you've said about human progression.

Environmentalist have never been about progression. To hug a tree is to go against progression. But when astroid mining comes into play, which it will if you do your research, we can all be happy.

Anyway the Green Party in Britain which fundamentally is a group of tree huggers would go back to using sails for ships and horses as means of regular transport if it was their way.

Now a subject I'm very passionate about is electricity and how its produced. If we had it their way we would be using solar panels and wind turbines which don't work.

Solar energy may work in sunny places but in Europe its not viable, at least Britain, Northern France and eastward.

Wind turbines just simply don't produce enough power and when the wind doesn't blow then generally you burn natural gas to keep them going.

Oil isn't viable anymore because there isn't enough of it as a result its too expensive, we all know that.

Coal just isn't that efficient.

So finally what power do we have left? You know where this is going. Yes I support Nuclear Fission. I would happily live right next to a power plant to show my confidence with such a device.

Yes it's relatively simple on how it works but the fact is Nuclear power is completely safe in capable hands, if you have very strict safety procedures then its safe and its the most efficient and for those green people it produces very little emissions and tiny amounts of waste.

But I do support the Fusion reactors in development, the ultimate form of power. I doubt we would make a black hole looking for the vital atom, if its an atom, which I've forgotten the name of.

Yeah I'm going to shut up now cause I can't see me winning this evaluating my situation and how I'm supposedly amazingly naive, which I doubt, enjoy your 'happy' lifestyle.
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Haha, there are so many sweeping statements in some of these posts by @"Thomas Berard". You want to talk about naivete, that is the definition. Just reading things doesn't make you clever. And just to irritate you, I'm going to explain that you will understand that when you are older.

And just so this post is on topic, I didn't know who Miley Cyrus was, and now that I do, I find myself wishing I could go back to that state of childlike innocence. Moreover, most of the parent's of these children she is 'corrupting' grew up in the 80s, a time when rock/pop stars actually having clothing on was news, and not the other way around.
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Nobody blames robin thicke wich prolly orchestrated the whole act , every other media whore was doing this but now that the ex hannah montana does this is something amazingly terrible , Just get over it and lets worry about actual important shit
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Miley Cyrus is just the next Britney Spears. We've seen this type of crazy before so it's nothing to get excited over or even care about.


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