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What is the difference between TESO and "raid" systems?


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So, I am completely new to mmo's and would like to distinguish a few differences in the implementation of the TESO system. If it is not going to be a massive raid type of system, does that preclude the possibility of epic boss battles? I'm looking for the thrill of defeating a massively overpowered boss with a bunch of friends on an epic battle scale with the possibility of rare item drops and such. Please try to be kind in your response as I really do not know what to expect given all of the mixed messages i'm getting online, and the fact that I have zero experience with these game types.


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I think raids can be done over and over again, getting past waves of baddies until you reach the boss. Whereas in ESO it will be more instance based, once you've completed it you can't do it again. It will be the same setup though, working your way through a dungeon or whatever until you reach the main character/item/thing you've been requested to get.

I think there are also AI controlled castles and towers you can lay siege too. There will be a boss in there.
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(January 17th 2014, 04:47 AM)Dark Souls Mantra Wrote: Please try to be kind in your response as I really do not know what to expect given all of the mixed messages i'm getting online, and the fact that I have zero experience with these game types.

You should only get friendly faces on this site :). I say the only stupid question is the question that was never asked.
To be fair with your question I can't answer it fully as I do not have the answers to give but from the information that has been given out to us I believe there are these things called 'Adventure zones' which might have what you seek, very little details have been told about these zones but what I have gathered thus far is: It'll be lvl 50+ and that you can solo, play with a small group or play with a really large group to overcome obstacles. Lets hope one of these obstacles is that epic boss fight you were hoping for ^-^
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from watching dev interviews i8t seems the bosses are a bit different to say wow. instead of one giant all powerful boss it will be the boss in control of an army of sorts, this is to make it more realistic. yes there will be epic item drops and i believe in late game (level 50) you can replay these dungeons as many times as you like.
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(January 17th 2014, 04:47 AM)Dark Souls Mantra Wrote: I'm looking for the thrill of defeating a massively overpowered boss with a bunch of friends on an epic battle scale with the possibility of rare item drops and such.

Sounds to me that you are actually looking for a World of Warcraft rather than Elder Scrolls Online

Quoting Game Director Matt Firor "Dont think WoW raids with oversized bosses, Elder Scrolls dont have this, think of many vs many encounters"

Which of course goes well with ZOS doctrine of not separating PvE and PvP. In the PvE our healers and squishies will have to be actively protected as much as they would in PvP, because we are not getting Tanks covered in glue


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Piggybacking off of what others said above, there will be "Adventure Zones". I am hoping that these deliver raiding similar to that of other MMO's. If there is no such type of raiding, I will be much less interested in this game. PvP can only keep my attention for a bit (more of a filler/side activity). If they are not like WoW, that is perfectly ok with me, as long as there is something similar to it. So to answer your question, yes and no. There will be some sort of raiding encounters in game, but not like previous MMO's.
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Given that the game has no instances, I doubt there is going to be much "WoW raiding" or "friends" only. More likely like DAOC where it needed half the realm to kill the dragon or 20-30 people to kill the legion in DF. (or more if enemy realm controlled the dungeon).

End game in TESO is more RvR/AvA oriented imho.
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In most cases of WoW like raids you get gear X with stats Y and enough experience to reach the required Level of the next raid, where you get gear A with stats B and so on.

ESO raids will not end with the same stuff for everyone, but with leveled and randomized loot depending on how good you've played. They call this System 'Finesse' System. For instance, if you die in the middle of a Boss fight you get crappy loot after the battle. If you do a lot of damage, make dodge rolls or block to reduce damage taken or if you heal a lot and activate Combos, you get awesome loot.


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(January 23rd 2014, 02:47 AM)Idriar Wrote: AND

In most cases of WoW like raids you get gear X with stats Y and enough experience to reach the required Level of the next raid, where you get gear A with stats B and so on.

ESO raids will not end with the same stuff for everyone, but with leveled and randomized loot depending on how good you've played. They call this System 'Finesse' System. For instance, if you die in the middle of a Boss fight you get crappy loot after the battle. If you do a lot of damage, make dodge rolls or block to reduce damage taken or if you heal a lot and activate Combos, you get awesome loot.

I like that idea. Thanks all for the input, I'm liking this forum more and more every day.


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(January 17th 2014, 04:47 AM)Dark Souls Mantra Wrote: So, I am completely new to mmo's and would like to distinguish a few differences in the implementation of the TESO system. If it is not going to be a massive raid type of system, does that preclude the possibility of epic boss battles? I'm looking for the thrill of defeating a massively overpowered boss with a bunch of friends on an epic battle scale with the possibility of rare item drops and such. Please try to be kind in your response as I really do not know what to expect given all of the mixed messages i'm getting online, and the fact that I have zero experience with these game types.

Welcome and I hope you enjoy the game.


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