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I believe this topic has already been discussed.

When it comes to PvP, DC will dominate. With megaserver technology I can imagine they'll never let Cyrodiil have an unfair number count. Ergo, one can conclude that whatever X number they decide to be the limit that is allowed into Cyrodiil before people have to go to different renditions of the zone is going to be reached by all 3 factions. EP's numbers do not serve a purpose in a game mode which is going to try to focus on it being fair for all sides. That is exactly why DC will dominate. There are more PvP guilds for DC than any other faction. Not to mention with how many blood-crazed orc players there will be you can guarantee there will be something like an all orc PvP guild which ends up putting orc after orc on the throne.

Strategy wins against numbers, especially when the numbers will most likely be balanced overall so that it's fair. There again - many guilds that have not made their minds of playing TESO might start up after launch. Maybe AD will get a really massive & powerful PvP guild? Possibly DC & EP will get even better ones. In the end, Guilds win the PvP war - not factions. To argue against this point is like saying you're going to get a bunch of random untrained, uncoordinated, and ill lead players into Planetside 2 & try to win against a unit. The unit will ALWAYS win.
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Yeah I said that in a post just a few minutes ago winning the Throne or anything worth winning in Cyridiil will be determined by the guilds in a faction and how well they can work together.
Skill on the battlefield is going to play a huge part as well so making good teams and practicing with them is another thing and that experience is going to mostly be got by means of guild members.
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(August 5th 2013, 01:38 PM)Miasmador Wrote: Well, I think we're all even. AD had no races built for close up combat, while EP has no race that is based on Magic. While DC is good at magic, brilliant with Tanks and alright with rouges, it lack the advantage of numbers. I'd agree, we really can't know until TESO begins.

your a dunmer but you believe EP has no mages... did you even play a tes game ?
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I feel like many people are too quick too judge races based on their stereotypical combat roles. There is most likely going to be a lot of people of who until this point have never played an Elder Scrolls game. Therefore, they will know little nothing about the lore of the races including what each race is normally inclined to in combat. This question can not be answered until the game is released.

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Yeah Ebonheart Pact is full of Noobs , I guess you could call me New to the elder scrolls series since I started playing in 2011 , and My first game was morrowind I never really liked morrowind after that I played skyrim I LOVED the shit out of skyrim , After that oblivion I hated Oblivion at first coming from skyrim but then I started to Love it nearly as much as I love skyrim

Also Played Arena last week it sucked XD
Im sort of a lore buff though , I can pickup the lore of a game and Remember it without much Help

I dont consider my self a Elder Scrolls Noob but im not the most veteran player

Weakest faction in my opinion is prolly the Aldmeri Dominion . Why you say?
Ebonheart pact has the Advantage in Numbers
More pros join the Covenant Because theyre the underdogs
Aldmeri dominion is in Between , They dont have lots of players
Nor do they Have Lots of Pros in there ranks

I think this game will be Mainly a Battle betweeen the Pact and the Covenant
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Weren't you a Redguard until recently?


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That's easy, OP. AD will be weakest. The two worst Elf races got stuck with Khajits. Even Argonians make fun of Khajits.
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(August 5th 2013, 03:14 PM)Kilivin Wrote: I believe this topic has already been discussed.

When it comes to PvP, DC will dominate. With megaserver technology I can imagine they'll never let Cyrodiil have an unfair number count. Ergo, one can conclude that whatever X number they decide to be the limit that is allowed into Cyrodiil before people have to go to different renditions of the zone is going to be reached by all 3 factions. EP's numbers do not serve a purpose in a game mode which is going to try to focus on it being fair for all sides. That is exactly why DC will dominate. There are more PvP guilds for DC than any other faction. Not to mention with how many blood-crazed orc players there will be you can guarantee there will be something like an all orc PvP guild which ends up putting orc after orc on the throne.

Strategy wins against numbers, especially when the numbers will most likely be balanced overall so that it's fair. There again - many guilds that have not made their minds of playing TESO might start up after launch. Maybe AD will get a really massive & powerful PvP guild? Possibly DC & EP will get even better ones. In the end, Guilds win the PvP war - not factions. To argue against this point is like saying you're going to get a bunch of random untrained, uncoordinated, and ill lead players into Planetside 2 & try to win against a unit. The unit will ALWAYS win.

Assumptions, no proof given. Throw me statistics that DC or EP possesses the most and most efficient PvP guilds to date.

These kind of threads can only create false assumptions (DC being the underdogs and every skilled player joining them being absolutely the most common one) and unnecessary slander.


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(August 5th 2013, 05:43 PM)Konahrik Wrote:
(August 5th 2013, 01:38 PM)Miasmador Wrote: Well, I think we're all even. AD had no races built for close up combat, while EP has no race that is based on Magic. While DC is good at magic, brilliant with Tanks and alright with rouges, it lack the advantage of numbers. I'd agree, we really can't know until TESO begins.

your a dunmer but you believe EP has no mages... did you even play a tes game ?
I said not based on magic. Based. That means, in case you didn't know, that they're not like the Altmer, they have other skills then magic, and magic is only one of their skills. Yeah? Do you get it now?


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I mean I don't think any faction will be weakest. Honestly I think there is gonna be some really interesting back and forth cause a lot of this over population of EP is gonna start shifting its wait from faction to faction as they decide they are not doing well enough in their original choice. So numbers are gonna shift and change constantly when the game first starts at least for those without strong guild ties.

As for pvp guilds we see that both AD and DC are having a big influx of the more pvp oriented and hardcore guilds EP has some that I have seen, but DC is just thriving on it underdog mentality which is fine. In the end though they really are not going to be the underdogs and neither will AD with tested guilds from other pvp backgrounds like UMBRA and a few others AD has some good bets on a pvp edge so honestly no one here wins at first this is gonna be a really weird confusing mash up guilds will fall and be created from rubble a lot of shit will happen in the first months of pvp that will honestly make things rather hectic.

At this point we have no idea a lot of the functions of pvp we have no idea a lot of the ways its going to work what will available where we can go all these things still open and being considered again it ends up being that everyone starts off even and things will change things will shift and people may move and change their bets and alliances.

I also think no offense to DC players, but it is a little getting big for their britches situation with the whole and every faction is guilty of it, but the we are the best we will dominate thing is quite over the top. I notice for example DC starts up battle plan threads and yea its amusing and its a good way to get together at the same time with the lack of info and all these other things well your plans could entirely change or be ineffective depending how things work we are basing most of these things off of assumptions or maybe even real world applications.

My opinion is whichever faction is the most egotistical will be the most underwhelming in their performance. Arrogance is not confidence and the idea that you are going to dominate a game that is yet to be fully determined is well... something that shows a fatal flaw in the way you view or look at things and this goes for any faction that does it. Personally the DC is the most frequent offenders I see of this and it could just be that they have the smallest numbers so they tend to be the loudest about it, but again it just that kind of thought process is what leads to people falling short of their goals at least in my opinion.

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I appreciate that this does not immediately relate to TESO but bare with me.
When I used to play WoW, the Horde on my server were grossly outnumbered by the Alliance; this was at first glance, a rather irritating issue. When it came to finding mid-range PVE groups, for instances or group quests, it proved to be an annoyance. Finding a group was hellish. However - when it came to PVP, you came to realise something striking, namely that Horde virtually always won the battlegrounds and any 'in-world' PvP raids. This was because it seemed to attract a more mature player, or perhaps (more likely) that the smaller community had banded together to form a formidable war-band.
If you think about this in terms of TESO, perhaps the seemingly disenfranchised DC will perform better together than the more numerous EP, simply due to the fact they could form a more solid and efficient community. I'm not saying this will be the case, especially upon release when everyone is on a far more level playing field, but it is something interesting to consider.
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this has already been discussed 2000 players per campaign there is no issue about who is stronger or weaker its whoever plays smarter.
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Exactly that's why you have a good plan-to crush all opposition.


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As a true Nord and honorable Warrior, I will simply say that for every side, there's always a brave warrior willing to fight or die for their faction. But I'm going to have lots of fun chopping the heads off of every other enemy I encounter who's not in the Ebonhart Pact. :)
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I like how everyone is saying the EP is for noobs when the game hasn't even been released. I'll be playing as a nord and have done since morrowind.
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