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Who is more physically tough? redguards or nords?


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Been researching about the human races in the elder scrolls, came across these two and was wondering which race would have more physical prowess?.

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Skilled at the art of war, the dark-skinned natives of arid Hammerfell are natural athletes that excel at swordplay and anything demanding strength and endurance. Prideful and fierce, both on the battlefield and in political circles, the Redguards prefer adventuring and displays of heroism as opposite to blind military instruction. Life in the desert has hardened them to the effects of the elements and they possess an in-born resilience and fortitude.

The Nords are a race of fair-skinned humans that are the direct descendents of the Atmorans, from the frozen continent of Atmora, and the Nedic peoples native to Tamriel. Nords, along with Redguards and Orcs, are more muscular than most other races and normally have paler skin. They have developed a resistance to cold, most likely from tundra life in Skyrim.

The game is up people! redguard vs nord :).
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both are humans. both have people of all kinds of physical abilities so i doubt you realy can make a claim here.
Cultural wise. both have rather grimm initation rites. but very different ones. On the notion of the redguard. they have to live a year in the alik'r desert. On the side of the nord they have to fight and kill an ice wraith.
Generaly speaking id say physically a redguard would be alot more hardy, but a nord would be stronger.
Why? because of the food. Both endure great hardship, but the redguards need to endure longer walks while deprived of food and water.

The nord on the other hand face these hardships in shorter periods (tho always with the biting cold of their homeland) and their diet consist to large parts of meat. wich allows them to rapidly build musclemass.
You wont get the same ammounts of meat in hammerfell. Herding animals for meat is not as profitable in a land like high rock.

as for skill. depending. a redguard would probably be better trained in the arts of blade. But less versed with armor. A nord on the other hand would surpass him in battle expirience and savagery due to the nature of Skyrim beeing war torn and plagued by bandits. a Nord is alot more likeley to defend his farm from bandits while a redguard would most likeley deal with the wildlive of his homeland. but practice swordplay more as a sport than anything else.
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Thanks for your explanation Sordak! :), it's always good to learn from others in a non-mocking way.
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Anyone else got an opinion on this? or is this thread not worth it, :D
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Just looking at the two races without any knowledge of background story or lore. I'd assume Nord to be the stronger (physically) race, powerful strikes, not very skilled but makes up for it in toughness/strength. Reguards would be more skilled and agile. Just my view on it :P


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I think it's kind of cute that you went straight to second place. No need to mention who's on top.
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If we want to go by the numbers the games give (or at least Morrowind and Oblivion), both are pretty much equal, with Nords tending to be slightly stronger and Redguards having slightly more Endurance. Both are just gaming abstractions, of course, so they aren't definitive, but it's something, and fits what Sordak said.


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Nord's are Stronger in therms of physical strength, Redgaurds are more agile and and resilient.
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RedGuards are cunning and Nords are slightly Stronger. Since they are both native to extreme environments I would guess their "toughness"/constitution is a draw.
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Nords are built firmly where they remain.

Redguards are so agile that need movement to hit their strength peak.
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Having personally experienced both Tundra and Desert climates it takes alot more physical power and size to survive in the cold, but more will and endurance not to mention a bit more smarts to survive in the desert. If its a question of who would win in a fight I would put my money on the Ra'gada, but if its a matter purely of who is stronger then it would be the Nord.


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Simple RedGuard FTW
they have curved sword. ;-)


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(January 28th 2013, 12:42 PM)Sordak Wrote: both are humans. both have people of all kinds of physical abilities so i doubt you realy can make a claim here.
Cultural wise. both have rather grimm initation rites. but very different ones. On the notion of the redguard. they have to live a year in the alik'r desert. On the side of the nord they have to fight and kill an ice wraith.
Generaly speaking id say physically a redguard would be alot more hardy, but a nord would be stronger.
Why? because of the food. Both endure great hardship, but the redguards need to endure longer walks while deprived of food and water.

The nord on the other hand face these hardships in shorter periods (tho always with the biting cold of their homeland) and their diet consist to large parts of meat. wich allows them to rapidly build musclemass.
You wont get the same ammounts of meat in hammerfell. Herding animals for meat is not as profitable in a land like high rock.

as for skill. depending. a redguard would probably be better trained in the arts of blade. But less versed with armor. A nord on the other hand would surpass him in battle expirience and savagery due to the nature of Skyrim beeing war torn and plagued by bandits. a Nord is alot more likeley to defend his farm from bandits while a redguard would most likeley deal with the wildlive of his homeland. but practice swordplay more as a sport than anything else.

Incorrect as far as Skrim being war torn as opposed to Hammerfell

1. The Redguard have whooped Orc behind on the regular.

2. Redguard have fought the Imperials, Bretons, and are the only race that has beaten the Altmer with no assistance

3. The Ra'gada have the most knightly orders out of any of the human races, see the Order of Diagna.

4. Forebears vs Crowns, nuff said

5. Left handed Elves? Thalmor? Yeah we eat those for breakfast

I am not taking anything away from the Norn at all but the Redguard have fought all of their neighbors and only lost when the Imperials used a dragon against them.

Think about this interesting fact. When the Ra'gada landed not only did they open a can of whoop ass on the Breton, Nords, Altmer (and Dunmer who were there at the time) and Orcs, but then later on the Bretons (who got their butts whooped by them previously) had issue with the Orcs. Guess who they asked to go in and take care of the Orcs?

The Redguard

You have to be pretty bad ass to not only run out natives of an entire country, but then be asked to kick the crap of the beast people of the mountains, the Empire had to use a dragon to beat you, and the Thalmor? I'm sorry you mean those elves who beat the Empire? The same ones who have taken up residence in Skyrim and have not been pushed out?

Yeah we whooped them too. Ain't no Thalmor enclaves in Hammerfell and then what do they do after they run out the Thalmor (with no assistance mind you- I'm talking about after the Empire left Hemmerfell out to dry)

They declare their independence and leave the Empire- who has nothing to say about it.

Moral of the story? Don't mess with black people with their own country. Wakanda? Hammerfell? Fictional black countries will kick your face in. Leave them alone.

So perhaps the Norn are stronger- Faster seems to whup elf ass more often. Not bad for a bunch of guys with curved swords who don't like magic much eh?
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hammerfell is nothing against skyrim. and there is no need for racial bias.
if your base of argumentations comes from personal bias on a race, there realy is no point in making the argument at all.

Both the Orcs and the left handet elves happened way back. when raga culture was nothing like it is today.
Most redguards live lives that are alot more civilized than those of the nord. and most do not get into conflicts nearly as ofthen as the nord do.

The Raga have their skill through practice. But Hammerfell is not nearly as savage as skyrim is. The Alik'r of course is. But the difference is that the majority of the population does not live anywhere near the alik'r but in highly civilized cities such as sentinel.
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