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Who should rule TAMRIEL
Argonian State
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Empire
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Who should rule all of tamriel


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This question is not related to the period ESO is set in it is related to the period skyrim is set in.

Lets begin , In the period of skyrim there are 4 main political factions
Theres the empire wich consist of Skyrim , Cyrrodil and High rock
Theres Hammefell wich is just.....Hammefell :P then there is the Argonian State wich is Morrowind and Black Marsh
Lasty there is the Aldmeri Dominion wich is Summerset , Valenwood and Elsweyr

My question is out of this 4 factions wich do you think should rule all of tamriel?
I believe the Argonian State should , Now im not saying tamriel should be dominated by argonians but I think its a breath of fresh air from the Nazis and some of the Empires dumb rules

its also important to note the argonians are immensly powerful and TES 6 could be actually them attacking another province
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I vote for the Dominion, the Argonians haven't shown the slightest interest in ruling Tamriel and they only conquered Morrowind out of revenge for making many of them slaves, Hammerfell is largely controlled by the Dominion (the concordat said that the Empire would surrender large amounts of southern Hammerfell to the Dominion) so they wouldn't have the strength to defeat the current rulers, and the Empire is now mostly divided and crippled and only controls Cyrodill and High rock because Skyrim is disputed plus after the events of Skyrim they are leaderless and haven't had a decent ruler since the Septim line.

All that leaves is the Dominion, they are strong enough to defeat the Empire and they have fairly reasonable goals and put an end to worshiping Talos who isn't a god, and have the most just cause to rule because it was their ancestors who built the imperial city and many of the ancient structures in Tamriel.


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(August 12th 2013, 06:21 PM)Took an arrow in the knee Wrote: I vote for the Dominion, the Argonians haven't shown the slightest interest in ruling Tamriel and they only conquered Morrowind out of revenge for making many of them slaves, Hammerfell is largely controlled by the Dominion (the concordat said that the Empire would surrender large amounts of southern Hammerfell to the Dominion) so they wouldn't have the strength to defeat the current rulers, and the Empire is now mostly divided and crippled and only controls Cyrodill and High rock because Skyrim is disputed plus after the events of Skyrim they are leaderless and haven't had a decent ruler since the Septim line.

All that leaves is the Dominion, they are strong enough to defeat the Empire and they have fairly reasonable goals and put an end to worshiping Talos who isn't a god, and have the most just cause to rule because it was their ancestors who built the imperial city and many of the ancient structures in Tamriel.

You forgot the part where they want kill off the human races and undo creation.

On topic, while I support an Argonian ruled Cyrodiil, it's highly unlikely. Hammerfell is currently at a stalemate with the Dominion and the Empire is in a very fragile state.

I can't really say which would lead best but I support the Empire more than anything else as a more likely scenario.
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Why not the Empire? Equal protection, only the worship of Talos is not accepted (Even though I'm pretty sure quite a few people do it in secret anyway), everyone is treated equally, and everyone would be in good standings with the Thalmor aside from the Nords... most likely.


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(August 12th 2013, 06:21 PM)Took an arrow in the knee Wrote: I vote for the Dominion, the Argonians haven't shown the slightest interest in ruling Tamriel and they only conquered Morrowind out of revenge for making many of them slaves, Hammerfell is largely controlled by the Dominion (the concordat said that the Empire would surrender large amounts of southern Hammerfell to the Dominion) so they wouldn't have the strength to defeat the current rulers, and the Empire is now mostly divided and crippled and only controls Cyrodill and High rock because Skyrim is disputed plus after the events of Skyrim they are leaderless and haven't had a decent ruler since the Septim line.

All that leaves is the Dominion, they are strong enough to defeat the Empire and they have fairly reasonable goals and put an end to worshiping Talos who isn't a god, and have the most just cause to rule because it was their ancestors who built the imperial city and many of the ancient structures in Tamriel.
Talos is a god , argonians dont care about who you worship . I think argonians are just settling in once they get used to morrowind theyre gonna attack either the empire or the dominion
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No the Argonians mostly just want to be left alone they only really invaded Morrowind because they didn't leave them alone and even so they don't have the strength to takeout the Dominion maybe the Empire but the Dominion would be backing them and Talos is not a god.

(August 12th 2013, 06:29 PM)Silver-Strider Wrote:
(August 12th 2013, 06:21 PM)Took an arrow in the knee Wrote: I vote for the Dominion, the Argonians haven't shown the slightest interest in ruling Tamriel and they only conquered Morrowind out of revenge for making many of them slaves, Hammerfell is largely controlled by the Dominion (the concordat said that the Empire would surrender large amounts of southern Hammerfell to the Dominion) so they wouldn't have the strength to defeat the current rulers, and the Empire is now mostly divided and crippled and only controls Cyrodill and High rock because Skyrim is disputed plus after the events of Skyrim they are leaderless and haven't had a decent ruler since the Septim line.

All that leaves is the Dominion, they are strong enough to defeat the Empire and they have fairly reasonable goals and put an end to worshiping Talos who isn't a god, and have the most just cause to rule because it was their ancestors who built the imperial city and many of the ancient structures in Tamriel.

You forgot the part where they want kill off the human races and undo creation.

On topic, while I support an Argonian ruled Cyrodiil, it's highly unlikely. Hammerfell is currently at a stalemate with the Dominion and the Empire is in a very fragile state.

I can't really say which would lead best but I support the Empire more than anything else as a more likely scenario.


They don't want to kill off the human race mostly just show them whose boss and that's just the Thalmor not the entire Dominion. The whole undo creation thing isn't a bad thing it would just destroy Mundus and everyone would live in Atherius and be immortal whats wrong with that?


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(August 13th 2013, 07:07 AM)Took an arrow in the knee Wrote: No the Argonians mostly just want to be left alone they only really invaded Morrowind because they didn't leave them alone and even so they don't have the strength to takeout the Dominion maybe the Empire but the Dominion would be backing them and Talos is not a god.

(August 12th 2013, 06:29 PM)Silver-Strider Wrote:
(August 12th 2013, 06:21 PM)Took an arrow in the knee Wrote: I vote for the Dominion, the Argonians haven't shown the slightest interest in ruling Tamriel and they only conquered Morrowind out of revenge for making many of them slaves, Hammerfell is largely controlled by the Dominion (the concordat said that the Empire would surrender large amounts of southern Hammerfell to the Dominion) so they wouldn't have the strength to defeat the current rulers, and the Empire is now mostly divided and crippled and only controls Cyrodill and High rock because Skyrim is disputed plus after the events of Skyrim they are leaderless and haven't had a decent ruler since the Septim line.

All that leaves is the Dominion, they are strong enough to defeat the Empire and they have fairly reasonable goals and put an end to worshiping Talos who isn't a god, and have the most just cause to rule because it was their ancestors who built the imperial city and many of the ancient structures in Tamriel.

You forgot the part where they want kill off the human races and undo creation.

On topic, while I support an Argonian ruled Cyrodiil, it's highly unlikely. Hammerfell is currently at a stalemate with the Dominion and the Empire is in a very fragile state.

I can't really say which would lead best but I support the Empire more than anything else as a more likely scenario.


They don't want to kill off the human race mostly just show them whose boss and that's just the Thalmor not the entire Dominion. The whole undo creation thing isn't a bad thing it would just destroy Mundus and everyone would live in Atherius and be immortal whats wrong with that?

I'd rather not be forced into a life of suppressed servitude by some stuck up elves. Also, how does destroying the entire universe not fall under bad ideas for you, especially considering that there's no guarantee the plan will even succeed? Finally, the human races where never aspects to begin with so chances are they won't exist at all if thing revert back to before creation


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(August 12th 2013, 06:21 PM)Took an arrow in the knee Wrote: I vote for the Dominion, the Argonians haven't shown the slightest interest in ruling Tamriel and they only conquered Morrowind out of revenge for making many of them slaves, Hammerfell is largely controlled by the Dominion (the concordat said that the Empire would surrender large amounts of southern Hammerfell to the Dominion) so they wouldn't have the strength to defeat the current rulers, and the Empire is now mostly divided and crippled and only controls Cyrodill and High rock because Skyrim is disputed plus after the events of Skyrim they are leaderless and haven't had a decent ruler since the Septim line.

All that leaves is the Dominion, they are strong enough to defeat the Empire and they have fairly reasonable goals and put an end to worshiping Talos who isn't a god, and have the most just cause to rule because it was their ancestors who built the imperial city and many of the ancient structures in Tamriel.

Hammerfell is not at all controlled by the Dominion. Hammerfell rejected the treaty and kicked the Dominion out.


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^^^Correct!

Now I don't like any of the factions but the empire would be the best even though I don't like them for different reasons than most. I dislike the dominion for the fact they are tyrannical murderers bastards who don't know how to rule, I like some rules but they are shit at implementing their rules and I would do it a lot better. Hammerfell isn't supported by myself since they have no interest in empire and aren't strong enough or have any really strong candidates to form an empire around. Now the empire is detested by myself for being weak. Yes weak and that is why I dislike them, you can't support an empire out of weakness so I dislike them but I detest them less than the other factions. Now I like dunmer politics, the whole party thing is what I like and if they were at all interested in empire I would support them but their not strong enough, interested enough or have a big enough economy to support it either as a result their weak. So if they were to release a game after the events of Skyrim it would be chaos. I see the empire, morrowind and black marsh fighting the AD with hammerfell staying out of it. Now I would love the age of gunpowder being introduced into Tamriel since the greatest days of development come during war and it wouldn't be a surprise that one side, probably the empire, would research such an [put glasses on] explosive advantage. Something involving fire salts and void salts that sort of thing to replicate the explosion of a flame atronach as a result hurling a large ball, or small, ball of led at the enemy. Also has this world never heard of lines? Like if I was in this world I would organise those bitches and conquer Tamriel with such a 'revolutionary' tactic. I would love gunpowder in the game after ESO since they can make it lore friendly. I would create a whole character revolving around gunpowder and make the rest have some involvement.


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(August 13th 2013, 09:06 AM)Nevvarine Dark-Blade Wrote:
(August 12th 2013, 06:21 PM)Took an arrow in the knee Wrote: I vote for the Dominion, the Argonians haven't shown the slightest interest in ruling Tamriel and they only conquered Morrowind out of revenge for making many of them slaves, Hammerfell is largely controlled by the Dominion (the concordat said that the Empire would surrender large amounts of southern Hammerfell to the Dominion) so they wouldn't have the strength to defeat the current rulers, and the Empire is now mostly divided and crippled and only controls Cyrodill and High rock because Skyrim is disputed plus after the events of Skyrim they are leaderless and haven't had a decent ruler since the Septim line.

All that leaves is the Dominion, they are strong enough to defeat the Empire and they have fairly reasonable goals and put an end to worshiping Talos who isn't a god, and have the most just cause to rule because it was their ancestors who built the imperial city and many of the ancient structures in Tamriel.

Hammerfell is not at all controlled by the Dominion. Hammerfell rejected the treaty and kicked the Dominion out.

Oh yeah, I just read that sorry but it still left them crippled.



(August 13th 2013, 07:34 AM)Silver-Strider Wrote:
(August 13th 2013, 07:07 AM)Took an arrow in the knee Wrote: No the Argonians mostly just want to be left alone they only really invaded Morrowind because they didn't leave them alone and even so they don't have the strength to takeout the Dominion maybe the Empire but the Dominion would be backing them and Talos is not a god.

(August 12th 2013, 06:29 PM)Silver-Strider Wrote:
(August 12th 2013, 06:21 PM)Took an arrow in the knee Wrote: I vote for the Dominion, the Argonians haven't shown the slightest interest in ruling Tamriel and they only conquered Morrowind out of revenge for making many of them slaves, Hammerfell is largely controlled by the Dominion (the concordat said that the Empire would surrender large amounts of southern Hammerfell to the Dominion) so they wouldn't have the strength to defeat the current rulers, and the Empire is now mostly divided and crippled and only controls Cyrodill and High rock because Skyrim is disputed plus after the events of Skyrim they are leaderless and haven't had a decent ruler since the Septim line.

All that leaves is the Dominion, they are strong enough to defeat the Empire and they have fairly reasonable goals and put an end to worshiping Talos who isn't a god, and have the most just cause to rule because it was their ancestors who built the imperial city and many of the ancient structures in Tamriel.

You forgot the part where they want kill off the human races and undo creation.

On topic, while I support an Argonian ruled Cyrodiil, it's highly unlikely. Hammerfell is currently at a stalemate with the Dominion and the Empire is in a very fragile state.

I can't really say which would lead best but I support the Empire more than anything else as a more likely scenario.


They don't want to kill off the human race mostly just show them whose boss and that's just the Thalmor not the entire Dominion. The whole undo creation thing isn't a bad thing it would just destroy Mundus and everyone would live in Atherius and be immortal whats wrong with that?

I'd rather not be forced into a life of suppressed servitude by some stuck up elves. Also, how does destroying the entire universe not fall under bad ideas for you, especially considering that there's no guarantee the plan will even succeed? Finally, the human races where never aspects to begin with so chances are they won't exist at all if thing revert back to before creation


There is no guarantee it will work but if it fails the worst that would happen would be the destruction of several monuments and Humans will likely exist still because they are descendants of Ehlnofey as well.


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I Shall rule all of tamerial! no way I`d let an elf be my king no offense and Argonian are a beast race no offense. The empire is weak they fell to elves in surrender No way I would ever surrender to those terms! Don`t really got anything against Redgaurd but I find them a mostly a Warrior race.


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You see if I had the choice I would be a Breton, conquer high rock since I actually apply tactics and will use gunpowder. Then Skyrim will fall to my glory, then hammerfell, I then use diplomacy to take Morrowind from the Argonians etc etc you get the point.


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There's no gunpowder in TES and what army would you conquer with?


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What good will gunpowder do? We can shoot fire from our hands, for Mara's sake!


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(August 13th 2013, 12:48 PM)Octagonapus97 Wrote: What good will gunpowder do? We can shoot fire from our hands, for Mara's sake!

There are cannons though . Im pretty sure they used them in naval warfare in aldmeris or pyandonea but they were useless cause theres magic
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