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Why the aldmeri?


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Why do the aldmeri claim that they should have the power on white gold tower and concretely Cyrodiil? White-Gold tower was build by Imperial and Nord slaves. The aldmeri lost their right the very first moment that they started worshiping Daedra. As a final proof, Akatosh (known as Au-Riel), helped Alessia by freeing her and giving her his direct Dragon Blood. Trying to put and aldmeri in the throne of Cyrodiil is like trying to put a German as president of America.


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For the Altmer it's not only the White-Gold Tower, it's their assencion to superiority. They believe that being the most ancient race of Nirn they are the wisest and the ones who should be in charge of everything, am I wrong?


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Personally, i don't hate Aldmeri, as long as they treat everyone the equal way, like Arylin. The Aldmeri i really hate are those who claim they are the best,and everyone else is either a drunk idiot either a weak warrior, like Isilmo.


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Of course, every race has their good and their bad sides, just like in real life. Here we're talking about the ones who thirst for power and superiority upon everyone else.


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Actually it crossed my mind that i would play with Ebonheart, cause as a preorderer i could choose whatever alliance. Thgough i wanna be Altmer, but Ebonheart has cool things like Nords and their lore.

But im still not sure, i wouldn't wanna betray Ayrenn <3 But i wouldnt wanna fight against Nords.


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(February 9th 2014, 04:54 AM)Akriloth Wrote: Personally, i don't hate Aldmeri, as long as they treat everyone the equal way, like Arylin. The Aldmeri i really hate are those who claim they are the best,and everyone else is either a drunk idiot either a weak warrior, like Isilmo.
@Isilmo, he is calling you out.


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The younger races are just jealous of our thousand year lifespan and superior height (Altmer because we can look down on them better and Bosmer because you can fit into smaller spaces), architecture, warriors, knowledge, mages, slavery, and enchanted weapons. We are the best, and they're all drunk and USELESS as warriors
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Well from my point of view which is as an Imperial whose wife is a Bosmer I chose the AD because nords kill elves and have a bad outlook on other races and the DC though they have respect for the races they seem like they are more geared towards making profits and helping the wealthy merchants then doing what is best for the Empire


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(February 11th 2014, 09:32 AM)Godfrey Wrote: Well from my point of view which is as an Imperial whose wife is a Bosmer I chose the AD because nords kill elves and have a bad outlook on other races and the DC though they have respect for the races they seem like they are more geared towards making profits and helping the wealthy merchants then doing what is best for the Empire

Originally I was planning on playing an Argonian but Dunmer in my faction? Those slavers! After having seen the pre purchase explorers package bonus (play any race in any faction) I've decided to go Dunmer with the AD.

As a Dunmer why would I want to play with the Nords with whom we have warred without end and the Argonian we held as slaves. It makes almost more sense to join the AD for the good of the Mer and to advance the downfall of Man.

Any Lore Junkies out there who have hard cold facts that would make my reasoning moot? From an RP point of view naturally.
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(February 13th 2014, 12:47 AM)Broxnar Wrote:
(February 11th 2014, 09:32 AM)Godfrey Wrote: Well from my point of view which is as an Imperial whose wife is a Bosmer I chose the AD because nords kill elves and have a bad outlook on other races and the DC though they have respect for the races they seem like they are more geared towards making profits and helping the wealthy merchants then doing what is best for the Empire

Originally I was planning on playing an Argonian but Dunmer in my faction? Those slavers! After having seen the pre purchase explorers package bonus (play any race in any faction) I've decided to go Dunmer with the AD.

As a Dunmer why would I want to play with the Nords with whom we have warred without end and the Argonian we held as slaves. It makes almost more sense to join the AD for the good of the Mer and to advance the downfall of Man.

Any Lore Junkies out there who have hard cold facts that would make my reasoning moot? From an RP point of view naturally.

The more Mer The better!!!


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(February 13th 2014, 11:04 AM)Isilmo Wrote:
(February 13th 2014, 12:47 AM)Broxnar Wrote:
(February 11th 2014, 09:32 AM)Godfrey Wrote: Well from my point of view which is as an Imperial whose wife is a Bosmer I chose the AD because nords kill elves and have a bad outlook on other races and the DC though they have respect for the races they seem like they are more geared towards making profits and helping the wealthy merchants then doing what is best for the Empire

Originally I was planning on playing an Argonian but Dunmer in my faction? Those slavers! After having seen the pre purchase explorers package bonus (play any race in any faction) I've decided to go Dunmer with the AD.

As a Dunmer why would I want to play with the Nords with whom we have warred without end and the Argonian we held as slaves. It makes almost more sense to join the AD for the good of the Mer and to advance the downfall of Man.

Any Lore Junkies out there who have hard cold facts that would make my reasoning moot? From an RP point of view naturally.

The more Mer The better!!!

Shouldn't it be "The more the Mer-rier"?

And no, a Dunmer in the AD isn't too hard to believe. The only issue might be that the Aedra-worshipping Altmer might consider you a heretic.

To be fair, the whole "former enemies working together" thing is basically the main schtick of the EP- much has been mentioned about how the races of the EP still don't really get along, there's racists on all sides, and that everyone views this as only an alliance of necessity.

Oh, and in response to the opening post, the Ayleids were the Cyrodilic slavers, not the Altmer, although the two races were very similar.

Perhaps the better metaphor would be the English saying to America, "Well, you lot have bloody b*ggered up the world, so now we have to come back and take control again just to clean up your mess."
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(February 13th 2014, 12:52 PM)chevalier mal fet Wrote:
(February 13th 2014, 11:04 AM)Isilmo Wrote:
(February 13th 2014, 12:47 AM)Broxnar Wrote:
(February 11th 2014, 09:32 AM)Godfrey Wrote: Well from my point of view which is as an Imperial whose wife is a Bosmer I chose the AD because nords kill elves and have a bad outlook on other races and the DC though they have respect for the races they seem like they are more geared towards making profits and helping the wealthy merchants then doing what is best for the Empire

Originally I was planning on playing an Argonian but Dunmer in my faction? Those slavers! After having seen the pre purchase explorers package bonus (play any race in any faction) I've decided to go Dunmer with the AD.

As a Dunmer why would I want to play with the Nords with whom we have warred without end and the Argonian we held as slaves. It makes almost more sense to join the AD for the good of the Mer and to advance the downfall of Man.

Any Lore Junkies out there who have hard cold facts that would make my reasoning moot? From an RP point of view naturally.

The more Mer The better!!!

Shouldn't it be "The more the Mer-rier"?

And no, a Dunmer in the AD isn't too hard to believe. The only issue might be that the Aedra-worshipping Altmer might consider you a heretic.

And, to be fair, the whole "former enemies working together" thing is basically the main schtick of the EP- much has been mentioned about how the races of the EP still don't really get along, there's racists on all sides, and that everyone views this as only an alliance of necessity.

Meh... Most Dunmer worship the Tribunal now only the Ashlanders worship Daedra properly now... the Tribunal are atleast elves and very close to the uncursed Chimer at that... Not some human corruptions of the Elven Pantheons...


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I for one think the Dunmer should join the AD as a memebr of the chicken but from a lore perspective it wouldn't work.

The Dunmer and Altmer generally hate one another. The Altmer view the Dunmer as heretics because they worshipped Daedra and left the isles following the prophet Veloth and the Dunmer also seem to have a hatred for the Altmer as witnessed in the game Morrowind when some Dunmer may tell you "I would kill you if you were an Altmer".

Now to the main question of the thread:

The Altmer have every right to rule. The White Gold Tower (and the entire Imperial City) was built by the Ayleids who were fairly closely related to the Altmer. If the Altmer don't have the right of heritage then the Bosmer do because many Ayleid refugees fled to Valenwood and intermingled with the local Bosmer population so it wouldn't be uncommon for most Bosmer to have some distant Ayleidoon blood in them.

You call the mer weak warriors? so what? the mer are the greatest mages in Tamriel and mages>warriors. It is pretty much proven that the mer are superior to man, if Titus Mede hadn't signed the concordat the empire would've been crushed.

In what universe were the Aldmer Daedra worshippers? the Altmer (the closest race to the Aldmer) hate the Dunmer specifically because they worshipped Daedra (as Chimer).


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To be fair, the Dunmer are more warrior-inclined then the Altmer or Bosmer while still being competent mages.. but yes, I do agree with joining the Dominion... as I kind of have... *ahem* But, I feel the ancestral bond between the different mer should get rid of any sort of current differences, but not everyone is that open


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(February 13th 2014, 01:59 PM)PurpleSadPanda Wrote: To be fair, the Dunmer are more warrior-inclined then the Altmer or Bosmer while still being competent mages.. but yes, I do agree with joining the Dominion... as I kind of have... *ahem* But, I feel the ancestral bond between the different mer should get rid of any sort of current differences, but not everyone is that open

In some ways I almost agree with the ideals of 'The Beautiful', of course without the extremist vandalism, terrorism and finally 'assassination'. For the cultures of Mer to be united against man we most importantly must remember not to behave like man. We can't try and subdue the Elven races under a single banner like the Human empire. We must let go of our past to a reasonable level and forget the petty differences between us that emerged when man came to Tamriel and return to the good old days of the Merethic Era where we can Live as one race. All of us different and special but all Superior over the races of Man.


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