Winning over fellow TES fans

I've started a two part series on YouTube where I argue the points for and against the Elder Scrolls Online. A skeptic look at ESO and an optimistic one. The skeptic video is already done and can be found here and in this thread.

Now it is time to make the optimistic argument and I need your help. I want this video to be a video people can point skeptics to to make them become ESO believers so the argument has to be good and geared to TES fans of course. Here is what I have so far:

1. Combat - i.e. Stealth, no cooldowns, magicka and stamina based system
2. Faction Warfare - i.e. Living out the epic large scale battles we've only read about in books littering Tamriel up to this point
3. Mega Servers - Enables hundreds of players to be shown on screen at once. No more worrying about which server your friends are on. Choose what kind of players you want to play with with the new matching system.
4. The Team - (I need help here actually. Who are the actual people working on ESO?)
5. Intelligent AI - i.e. enemies that actually respond to different situations appropriately
6. It's Elder Scrolls!

Help me! What else would be good to add to the list? Let's turn the skeptics into optimists.

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Oh and please don't just give a three word answer. The more you develop your argument the better :)

Check them out, there's some real good names in developer team.

Don't call Faction warfare so dull. Its actually major siege based, resource controlled warfare that has all kinds additional fluffs, such as "capture the elder scroll". PvE public dungeons (Oh, those, yup). Real skill based, real time, engaging combat. Freeform classes, and....


How about we actually don't give a damn about skeptics and whiners before we actually get absolutely any information on the game, and retaliate when the game isn't pre-alpha and massively subject to change?

(November 29th 2012, 03:07 PM)Nehemia Wrote: Check them out, there's some real good names in developer team.

Don't call Faction warfare so dull. Its actually major siege based, resource controlled warfare that has all kinds additional fluffs, such as "capture the elder scroll". PvE public dungeons (Oh, those, yup). Real skill based, real time, engaging combat. Freeform classes, and....


How about we actually don't give a damn about skeptics and whiners before we actually get absolutely any information on the game, and retaliate when the game isn't pre-alpha and massively subject to change?

Come man, you had some good stuff then you threw in the towel. "don't give a damn about skeptics". Yeah, that's the spirit. There is already a lot of information out there right now. To be honest I was a major skeptic until I watched Jesse Cox alpha review. Now I gladly count myself among the hopefuls. Never too early to rally fellow fans of the series to the cause I say.

1. Combat: add finesse and rewarding well played combat with ultimate ablities, exp and even loot. Combat is reaction based, you wont see enemy cast bar, you will see him casting. When u block an opponent you actually stagger him causing vulnerability. Also impact of combo abilities, no GW2 weaksauce. Rather important to mention that mobs use the combo fields too, so mob fighting is as simmilar to pvp as possible, not 2 separate games as in other mmos

2. Faction warfare: No ganking, focusing all pvp into the war zone to avoid clutter, massive pvp battles with 200 chaps on screen. PvE quests and dungeons available in the warzone, again not 2 separate games as in other mmos

Apart from that:
- 3 distinctive possible playthroughs with unique factions, landscapes, quests, dungeons
- NPC factions with varied ways to gain reputation (no wretched daily quests)
- Questing: No quest hubs, questing via exploration, public dungeons. No mob tagging, no resource competing
- Character customization: Armor progress, weapon progress, skill progress awarding passive bonuses and upgrades. Further character development after level cap. Total freedom in weapon/armor/role regardless of class. Perks available via questing

Screw TES fans, all they do is whine, we just need to spread the word to MMO fans, get the Dark Age of Camelot crew up in herre.

(November 29th 2012, 05:30 PM)Qallidex Wrote: Screw TES fans, all they do is whine, we just need to spread the word to MMO fans, get the Dark Age of Camelot crew up in herre.

Well, I wouldn't be that harsh on them. Yeah, some of them whine, but everyone else does as well. Each community is a microcosm; all we get on forums are the loudest minority. I'm sure there are plenty of TES fans who don't fit your whiner category. I, myself, am I huge TES fan with a severe DAoC nostalgia disorder. :-)

That being said, I sense that we'll get some of the old DAoC players on board, along with Warhammer players. Both were awesome crowds.

the only thing that im complaining about is what's taking them so long to launch the game. i mean, we want the game naooo!!!!

(November 29th 2012, 05:30 PM)Qallidex Wrote: Screw TES fans, all they do is whine, we just need to spread the word to MMO fans, get the Dark Age of Camelot crew up in herre.

Oh dear friend that hurt :'c and i thought we could be friends :P i know where you are coming from but im an TES fan and i CAN NOT wait! i think that they wont go wrong if the game is a elder scrolls game with mmo elements rather than a MMO with elder scrolls elements .... if that makes sense.

I think you should mention exploration, thats a huge basis for the game and has been for the elder scrolls

(November 29th 2012, 06:19 PM)quib Wrote:

(November 29th 2012, 05:30 PM)Qallidex Wrote: Screw TES fans, all they do is whine, we just need to spread the word to MMO fans, get the Dark Age of Camelot crew up in herre.

Oh dear friend that hurt :'c and i thought we could be friends :P i know where you are coming from but im an TES fan and i CAN NOT wait! i think that they wont go wrong if the game is a elder scrolls game with mmo elements rather than a MMO with elder scrolls elements .... if that makes sense.

I think you should mention exploration, thats a huge basis for the game and has been for the elder scrolls

Yea, I'm a TES fan to, but an MMO fan first, I should've said, the TES fans who don't understand MMO's and want the game to basically be a SPRPG, but online, which obviously doesn't make sense.

(November 29th 2012, 06:28 PM)Qallidex Wrote:

(November 29th 2012, 06:19 PM)quib Wrote:

(November 29th 2012, 05:30 PM)Qallidex Wrote: Screw TES fans, all they do is whine, we just need to spread the word to MMO fans, get the Dark Age of Camelot crew up in herre.

Oh dear friend that hurt :'c and i thought we could be friends :P i know where you are coming from but im an TES fan and i CAN NOT wait! i think that they wont go wrong if the game is a elder scrolls game with mmo elements rather than a MMO with elder scrolls elements .... if that makes sense.

I think you should mention exploration, thats a huge basis for the game and has been for the elder scrolls

Yea, I'm a TES fan to, but an MMO fan first, I should've said, the TES fans who don't understand MMO's and want the game to basically be a SPRPG, but online, which obviously doesn't make sense.

yeah! i see what you mean, i think we should all embrace this change it will be silly to make an MMO and not take advantage of the multilayer aspects, though i see a load of mmo's which are so similar, elder scrolls have some intresting mechanics which will be fun in a mmo, looking forward to see how the developers make it :)

Hmm I'd just point them in the direction of this http://elderscrollsotr.mymiddleearth.com...-with-eso/ and tell them to listen.

(November 29th 2012, 05:30 PM)Qallidex Wrote: Screw TES fans, all they do is whine, we just need to spread the word to MMO fans, get the Dark Age of Camelot crew up in herre.

I keep recalling those Daoc refugrees threads on SB forums demanding "non-pvp quest zones" to the game, and needless to say the contents of such threads weren't exactly arguments, but blatant whine.

(November 29th 2012, 05:30 PM)Qallidex Wrote: Screw TES fans, all they do is whine, we just need to spread the word to MMO fans, get the Dark Age of Camelot crew up in herre.

We are all TES fans here!!! I too am a rampant online gamer ... cut my teeth in a ghillie suit as a sniper in Delta Force 1 and in roleplay with Arena. Many TES fans are both so I say to the OP and to Qal "let's not catagorize/pigeonhole our fanbase in any way - let's make the appeal to everyone.

(November 29th 2012, 06:11 PM)Shadowthrone Wrote: the only thing that im complaining about is what's taking them so long to launch the game. i mean, we want the game naooo!!!!

Bethesda/Zenimax have always taken their proper time to put out an excellent game right out of the box. They don't need to keep changing & updating so much that the game you get hardly resembles the game you bought. That is so irritating when games do that. Wait for the finished perfection. ...... now CTD's ... that's another story 'cause they stretch the envelope as far as it'll go in getting performance out of the parameters.

(November 30th 2012, 02:25 AM)Nehemia Wrote:

(November 29th 2012, 05:30 PM)Qallidex Wrote: Screw TES fans, all they do is whine, we just need to spread the word to MMO fans, get the Dark Age of Camelot crew up in herre.

I keep recalling those Daoc refugrees threads on SB forums demanding "non-pvp quest zones" to the game, and needless to say the contents of such threads weren't exactly arguments, but blatant whine.

Dark Age of Camelot refugees squealing for mercy/PVE in Shadowbane? Absolutely hilarious!!

I love love love the Elder Scrolls lore. Its the only series I care about the lore more than Warcraft. If they can keep the story interesting and the gameplay feeling like elder scrolls I am gonna be all over this. I am excited ^_^.

One thing this game is doing right is.. They did something blizzard hasn't done in years! Bring in people who play the game to criticize it. They brought in the top guild leaders of current MMO's and pvpers!

edit: and by play I mean they rock the shit out of mmos