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SOURCE FOR THIS IS AT THE END OF THIS INTERVIEW: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyoGXQYgUaY

EDIT: My calculations were wrong - Real size done by Do'Rakk below.

(August 3rd 2013, 04:45 AM)DoRakk Wrote: Pi r^2 = pi 1.5^2 = 7.06 km sq
Multiply by 9 zones gives 63.61 km sq
Convert to miles for comparison to TES 4 Cyrodiil give roughly 39 sq mi
Now considering TES 4 Cyrodiil is 16 sq mi, ESO Cyrodiil is less than 2.5 times the size.
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So does that mean Iblivion didn't cover all of Cyrodiil or that Cyrodiil mysteriously shrink over the years?


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(August 2nd 2013, 06:53 PM)cyfiawnder hiraethus Wrote: So does that mean Iblivion didn't cover all of Cyrodiil or that Cyrodiil mysteriously shrink over the years?

I honestly couldn't care either way. It's freaking huge that's all I care about.


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(August 2nd 2013, 06:53 PM)cyfiawnder hiraethus Wrote: So does that mean Iblivion didn't cover all of Cyrodiil or that Cyrodiil mysteriously shrink over the years?

Or, you know, both games are using a different scale? :p Cyrodiil's canonically something like several hundred kilometers across, after all. Maybe even a thousand. Otherwise you could say High Rock and Hammerfell undergo some absurd expansion over the next few centuries to the massive map from Daggerfall. ;)


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(August 2nd 2013, 06:54 PM)Kilivin Wrote:
(August 2nd 2013, 06:53 PM)cyfiawnder hiraethus Wrote: So does that mean Iblivion didn't cover all of Cyrodiil or that Cyrodiil mysteriously shrink over the years?

I honestly couldn't care either way. It's freaking huge that's all I care about.

Yeah okay, it's just that when I heard that 3km thing all I could think about was this [video=youtube]http://youtu.be/9HjATD1imGc [/video] at about 0:44.

EDIT: I need somebody to tell me if the link is working or not, because it is not appearing on my tablet.
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I don't think the actual sizes of the provinces have ever been depicted correctly.


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(August 2nd 2013, 07:03 PM)Octagonapus97 Wrote: I don't think the actual sizes of the provinces have ever been depicted correctly.

Daggerfall has a full-scale (more or less) version of the Iliac Bay region. It's about 800 km x 400 km in size.
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Wait, so how much of Skyrim was actually in Skyrim how much Tameiel was in Arena how much US is there in North America? I don't even know anymore...


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lol well cool thanks for the math man cause honestly not my thing and I tried to do a little and just thought its big enough for me to stop worrying lol thanks though nice to know and damn really if cyrodil is that big its gonna be one hell of a journey to conquer it.


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(August 2nd 2013, 06:48 PM)Kilivin Wrote: SOURCE FOR THIS IS AT THE END OF THIS INTERVIEW: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyoGXQYgUaY

I'm actually surprised nobody has found this - it's a very informative interview.

In the interview he states that to cross a 'zone' is about 3km.

Surface Area calculation - 1.5^2x4xpi = 28.26sq.km [converted to miles] = roughly 17.5 sq miles PER zone.

Now - this is the part that might blow some people's minds. In the interview he states "Cyrodiil is roughly 9 of our zones" meaning that Cyrodiil will be roughly

9 x 17.5 = 157.5 sq. mi is the size of Cyrodiil. Which is indeed 10 times the size of Oblivion.

To get a concept of how large this is - take Vanilla WoW's entire world and double it, and that is one province.

We can make assumptions from there and say that if even the other faction areas are this size as well we will have a game with a grand total size of 630 sq. mi making it close to 8 times larger than the size of world of warcraft.

Ok your math is fundamentally flawed. For this problem you would need to find the area of a circle, you used a messed up version os spherical surface area (which is actually 4 pi 2r, not 4 pi r^2 as u put) Since your very first calculation was wrong, none of your calculations based of it it are correct. If you did it correctly then:

Pi r^2 = pi 1.5^2 = 7.06 km sq
Multiply by 9 zones gives 63.61 km sq
Convert to miles for comparison to TES 4 Cyrodiil give roughly 39 sq mi
Now considering TES 4 Cyrodiil is 16 sq mi, ESO Cyrodiil is less than 2.5 times the size.

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(August 2nd 2013, 06:53 PM)cyfiawnder hiraethus Wrote: So does that mean Iblivion didn't cover all of Cyrodiil or that Cyrodiil mysteriously shrink over the years?

Just blame the Daedra. It's the answer to all lore problems: "The Daedra changed it!" Smiling
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(August 3rd 2013, 04:45 AM)DoRakk Wrote:
(August 2nd 2013, 06:48 PM)Kilivin Wrote: SOURCE FOR THIS IS AT THE END OF THIS INTERVIEW: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyoGXQYgUaY

I'm actually surprised nobody has found this - it's a very informative interview.

In the interview he states that to cross a 'zone' is about 3km.

Surface Area calculation - 1.5^2x4xpi = 28.26sq.km [converted to miles] = roughly 17.5 sq miles PER zone.

Now - this is the part that might blow some people's minds. In the interview he states "Cyrodiil is roughly 9 of our zones" meaning that Cyrodiil will be roughly

9 x 17.5 = 157.5 sq. mi is the size of Cyrodiil. Which is indeed 10 times the size of Oblivion.

To get a concept of how large this is - take Vanilla WoW's entire world and double it, and that is one province.

We can make assumptions from there and say that if even the other faction areas are this size as well we will have a game with a grand total size of 630 sq. mi making it close to 8 times larger than the size of world of warcraft.

Ok your math is fundamentally flawed. For this problem you would need to find the area of a circle, you used a messed up version os spherical surface area (which is actually 4 pi 2r, not 4 pi r^2 as u put) Since your very first calculation was wrong, none of your calculations based of it it are correct. If you did it correctly then:

Pi r^2 = pi 1.5^2 = 7.06 km sq
Multiply by 9 zones gives 63.61 km sq
Convert to miles for comparison to TES 4 Cyrodiil give roughly 39 sq mi
Now considering TES 4 Cyrodiil is 16 sq mi, ESO Cyrodiil is less than 2.5 times the size.

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You still have 2 1/2 oblivion cyrodiils dedicated to PvP, I don't think that's disappointing at all.

Also your concept of of using the spherical surface area is not completely wrong. Although to do that you would need to know the exact diameter of nirn, then based on the calculated area of Cyrodiil, u could calculate the surface area of that particular sector. For any legitimate use though, that would require very advanced geometry that only a few people on here would understand, and the difference would be negligible at best.


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(August 3rd 2013, 11:18 AM)DoRakk Wrote: You still have 2 1/2 oblivion cyrodiils dedicated to PvP, I don't think that's disappointing at all.

Also your concept of of using the spherical surface area is not completely wrong. Although to do that you would need to know the exact diameter of nirn, then based on the calculated area of Cyrodiil, u could calculate the surface area of that particular sector. For any legitimate use though, that would require very advanced geometry that only a few people on here would understand, and the difference would be negligible at best.

Yaaaaah, I think I was very excited when I saw that interview to do the calculation and yah. I'm an idiot basically. TIS UNACCEPTABLE. xD
Alas - I guess this post still serves the purpose of Cyrodiil's size being known. No more, "Cyrodiil is 9x the size of that of Oblivion" - which I guess I was skeptical about a little bit to begin with.


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